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guest William Henry joins us oh man

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Nashville based off their investigative

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the awakened soul the lost signs of

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books and numerous video presentations

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sites including Egypt France Italy and

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Henry dotnet I would like to welcome

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William good evening good evening Jimmy

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thanks for having me back man it's so

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good to hear your voice have you been

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it's been

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to all wonderful I see this is the thing

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me I say you're going with Clare

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episode and went okay something's going

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runs two days but we benched the entire

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series from beginning to end and I

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immediately posted William on to social

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media for everybody to go and check it

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out that's it whatever you want to pull

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from it pull from it but it's pretty

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cool just go and watch it and we'll talk

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about it later kind of thing but it hit

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mean there's something about the concept

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of the second coming of a messiah how

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how would people reactives convincing

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prophet suddenly appeared maybe

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performing miracles gathering huge

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as the character did in the Netflix

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profound moment and and I think that's

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what the Messiah series was tapping was

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this zeitgeist of okay let's let's let's

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people might react if if the real deal

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was actually to happen and you can't

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help but think what if what if what if

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this actually happened so many I mean as

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they have a play out in the series so

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many personalities have surfaced over

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the years claiming to be the Messiah you

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know got a small following going or

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whatever but today if it happened with

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like it like it plays out here with

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social media and and everything else

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that we have today with technology it

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could almost play out the way that

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really well written oh extremely well

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written very well produced Roma Downey

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Holy Bible she of course was touched by

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an angel where our producers of the

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program the writing is excellent the

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storyline just absolutely fascinating it

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carries you from one episode to another

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and you can't wait to see what's going

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to happen here and they they're very

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cleverly leave it up to the audience to

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kind of look in the mirror as they're

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watching watching the series because

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you're never quite sure is this guy for

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real is he a false prophet is he Christ

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figure is he an antichrist figure and

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they kind of leave you to to sort that

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out yourself and one of the things that

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it caused with Rita and I we were we

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were constantly pausing and talking and

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asking questions and I think that we'll

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so provoke the same atmosphere in homes

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around the world where these

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conversations are going to result from

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watching this not only the one the what

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if part but the religious side of it the

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technical side of it the pop-culture

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side of it how governments are going to

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deal with this religious institutions

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and how they would deal with something

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like this and it provokes that kind of

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it does and as I was watching it watched

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a bit of it with Claire and her son

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happened to be visiting so we watched it

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together and Miley I'm not being

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critical of this series because again

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it's a it's a piece of entertainment

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it's not meant to be a documentary or a

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lecture by any means but I kept waiting

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for the Messiah to fulfill the the

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requirements of the Messiah which he

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doesn't in the series he does many other

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things and perhaps in season 2 which

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Netflix hasn't officially announced a

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season 2 yet but I can't imagine they

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won't do a season 2 they've got

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everything so beautifully set up right

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there there are very specific things

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that the Messiah is to do he does none

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of them in the series but and that's not

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to take a shot at this series but it's

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to say that most people are ok there's

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going to be a second coming but they

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don't really have a sense of how will

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they know how will you have a ability to

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judge if that's a correct term or to

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make a correct assessment if a person is

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a Christ figure or an antichrist type

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figure and this is what the series

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addresses it leaves you kind of guessing

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and then you know hopefully the

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conversations like you and Rita had and

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others are having as they're watching

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the program will cause them to go down

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the rabbit hole and say well how could

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this manifest and what would be the role

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of this figure

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how would I respond to that we're

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actually occurring now one of the other

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things that I want to stay focused on

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the series but we can't deny the

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elephant in the room here hot on the

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heels of the series in a very

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provocative way is dealing with

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governments and world events

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in not only the Middle East but the the

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climate here in the United States and

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it's it's it's it seems almost prophetic

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in nature even though it's a television

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series and you go and you finish it and

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then a week later we've got what just

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went down in the Middle East and is

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continuing to go down in the Middle East

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with with Iran and the United States and

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the hotbed of activity over there and it

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seems like the concerns that we had and

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the questions that were raised during

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the series we're now forcing the issue

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in real life right absolutely I mean

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it's so strange how life imitates art or

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the right way around it's very

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synchronistic everything that's

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happening in the Middle East right now

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especially in Iran is driven by the

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belief and especially among the Islamic

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people that a messiah is imminently

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going to appear they call him the Mahdi

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of course the 12th Imam he's thought to

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be a descendant of Muhammad who will

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ultimately eliminate Christianity and

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install Islam as the sole world religion

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this is the goal of Iran and it is

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tremendously coincidental that at the

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time the same time as you have millions

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of people around the world tuned into

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this idea of a messiah appearing that we

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get the real life story playing out rape

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for our eyes it's actually kind of the

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synchronicity goes fairly deep actually

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Jimmy because the the name of the actor

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who was playing the Messiah in the

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Netflix film his name is Mahdi tripping

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me out yeah he's a Belgian actor and he

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went through all kinds of spiritual

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training in preparation for doing the

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role really took it seriously took it

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took on the mantle if you will of the

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Messiah and it's just like oh my gosh

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how is it how does it work when a when

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an actor named Maddie or Mahdi plays a

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Messiah a figure that in the Islamic

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world would be called the Mahdi and this

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is for you for you personally with not

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only your books in your lectures but

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your

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search has been laser focused on this

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very subject right and I can't think of

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anybody better to to talk with about

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this than you and does it

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does it make you comfortable are you

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able to step back and go I see I've been

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I wrote a book about this in 2012 right

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I did I wrote a book called the Judgment

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Day device which is about the Jewish

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Christian and Islamic prophecies of the

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arrival of the Messiah and what this

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figure is to do there's literally a

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to-do list and in ways that that

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everyone will be able to identify this

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Messiah when it appears so I was

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tremendously interested to see how

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Netflix would handle this subject and

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here it is they've gathered the world

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together they've got everybody's

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attention it's almost as if people are

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ready now to take the next step and say

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okay let's bring the real thing in now

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there is the other aspect of we have the

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the Messiah side of it but then we also

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have the false prophet side and we don't

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know in this series and I'm not going to

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how do I want to say this I'm not going

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to give anything away that that's not

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going to happen tonight

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but they very cleverly did this

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throughout this season of of 10 episodes

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of you don't know you don't know and it

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wouldn't that be the case if it actually

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played out you wouldn't know if the

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Messiah was a false prophet or not and

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that would be the role of a false

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prophet right yeah and this is why it's

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such is so confusing it's one of those

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it's like the gordy and not in the

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Messianic prophecies the more you pull

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on the on the knot or the more you try

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to undo it

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the tighter the knot becomes like for

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example in the Islamic tradition the

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Mahdi is called the Mahdi because his

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name means the guided one because he

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will be guided by Allah to recover the

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Ark of the Covenant which is his mark of

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distinction and in fact that is the the

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icon or the the relative of all of the

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Messiah's

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from the Jewish Christian and Islamic

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perspective but in Islam the Mahdi is

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considered to be a messiah or a prophet

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but to Christians he would be a false

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prophet but the thing is is that in

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Islam the Mahdi has an assistant who

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actually recovers the Ark of the

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Covenant for him and his name is Jesus

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Christ

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confronted or how will they react when

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confronted to it with a potential

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appearance of the Mahdi and his partner

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his prophet Jesus were you looking for

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signals and and I felt again those as no

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spoilers here but were you looking for

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the trickster element the that side of

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it where you could sit back as William

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Henry and go ah right were you looking

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for that well I was because in the in

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some of the pre press for the series

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Netflix had been a little bit touchy

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about the name of the character El Mesa

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which means the Messiah or that's what

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they call him el Mesa in the series

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right and el Mesa ad dajjal is the

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Arabic name given to the false messiah

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the liar the deceiver an evil presence

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and so netflix did is everything they

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could to try to scrub that fact clean

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from some of the early takes about the

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series and so I was kind of with that

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thinking well okay let's see what other

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signals are coming through in the series

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because they're definitely aware of the

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sensitivity of the subject matter with

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which they're dealing in calling him el

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Mesa ad dajjal that Arabic name that's

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kind of like calling a character John

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Antichrist and then asking the viewers

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to guess this figures true intentions

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right right so so right off the bat they

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were signaling that okay there's going

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to be a little bit of duplicity here

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we're gonna maybe trick you a little bit

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we're gonna present this this Messiah as

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a trickster figure who you will

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ultimately not be able to determine in

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the spin season one if he is a false

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prophet or if he is in fact a a

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christ-like being

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and the the other interesting part about

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this which I don't think any of us can

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deny certainly here in the United States

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I can speak for others but here in the

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United States I grew up like everybody

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else with the the urban legend myth and

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biblical references throughout family

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life in school about World War three

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Armageddon happening in the Middle East

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there's gonna be that as false prophet

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it's all gonna kick off and we we've

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we've all you know grown up with one eye

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here in the States and the other one

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looking at the Middle East going okay is

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this the year now we're in you know the

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year 2000 or were in 2020 but we're in

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these biblical times that we have been

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told about growing up now the Middle

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East is kicking off we've got this TV

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series on TV that we're all forced to go

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back in and remember everything that

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we've been told are we at the end of

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times is is this actually playing out in

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front of us or is it just all what a

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strange coincidence well I mean and that

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was one of the primary messages of the

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series is that history has ended and and

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and in reality Jimmy history has ended

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we are not living in the same world

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today that that existed 20 years ago 100

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years ago 500 years ago

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that world is over we are now fully

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enmeshed integrated with artificial

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intelligence with technology beyond the

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comprehension of the average individual

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with with potentials for migrating into

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space that nobody could conceive of at

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least until the recent decade and so

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everything that happened in human

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history up to this point is almost

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irrelevant we are living in such a

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different world now and so maybe what we

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do need is this final conflict if you

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will this Armageddon to fully

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bring everybody into awareness that that

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old world is gone Homo Sapien is

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finished there will be no humans if

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Google and Apple Samsung Sony and these

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other companies have their way we will

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be trans humans within 15 years which

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means this is a whole new chapter in in

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history that we are entering into so

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this message that comes through in the

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Messiah series that history is ended is

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very accurate as a matter of fact and

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using technology for this message we're

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not talking about the printing presses

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here right we're talking about

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satellites and and streaming and network

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services and technology to do exactly

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what you're referencing and and again

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very strange very strange and the other

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story that I'm following kind of also

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sort of come out of left field for me is

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Kanye West in his belief that he's the

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Messiah what do you know okay if there

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is real life yes yes and the thing that

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freaked me out that maybe a little bit

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too juvenile of a word to use but but

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what really freaked me out about that

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was if you if you have an individual

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with facial recognition like Kanye West

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right with the power with the followers

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and then wants to turn around and start

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suggesting these things and going on

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what what did he go on Joel Osteen yes

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right yes

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they're gonna do a tour next year right

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if somebody out there was to have that

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kind of a notoriety and that kind of

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influence and power it would be Kanye

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yeah it's astounding I mean I have a

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happy happy just a weird story around

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this if you don't mind I'll just take a

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minute and tell it sure it it starts

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1989 Ted Turner said science and

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technology can't solve the world's

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problems

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he offered half a million dollars for

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the best piece of fiction dealing with

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teams ensuring the survival and

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prosperity of all life on the planet so

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I write a book called Turtle Island I

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had learned a

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out an artist named James Turrell he's

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literally the the Leonardo da Vinci of

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our time and he bought Roden crater an

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extinct volcano near Flagstaff Arizona

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and in this National Geographic article

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that I read in an 89 or 90 he said I'm

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gonna turn this volcano into a portal

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and I'm like wow because this guy works

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with light with a capital L he is an

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absolute genius every major museum in

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the on the planet has a tural exhibition

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is by far the most distinguished and

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most cosmic artist of our time and so I

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centered my book on Roden crater and the

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story was about a messiah who emerges

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from brogan crater and that's a 1989 I

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don't win the Turner tomorrow award I

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happened through the years to have met

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Terrell when he came to Nashville in

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1999 and then I met him again just a

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couple of years ago and my friends a

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very good friend of Mines home and in

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Phoenix and got to spend a few hours

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with him talking about all our favorite

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subjects and then just a few months ago

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I learned that Kanye West has donated 10

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million dollars to James Turrell

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so that he can complete the rodent

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Crater project and he films his new

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video his new IMAX video Jesus the king

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at Roden crater and he is the Messiah

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coming out of Roden crater and it's like

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how could this possibly be how could

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Kanye West possibly be the messiah or is

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he the Messiah he certainly believes

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that he is and is he in fact fulfilling

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what the Messiah is supposed to do one

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of the things that the Messiah has on

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the to-do list is that he teaches the

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hundred and forty-four thousand

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believers a secret song a new song he

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leads a choir in singing a new song

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what is Kanye's video about singing a

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new song to the Lord with a choir and

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what does Kanye West's most noted for

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the way he is used sound tools and an

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auto-tune to change

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human voice like it's becoming more than

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human you can't make this stuff up Jimmy

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it is so weird what's going on and it

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just falls into again to this zeitgeist

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where people are anticipating something

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is up and they're willing to accept a TV

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Messiah a Netflix Messiah just as easily

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as some are going to accept that Kanye

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West is the Messiah do you think that in

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the privacy of his own home right

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Kanye's at home does he believe that he

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is the Messiah or that this is part of

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an empire building money grab for Kanye

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or does he actually believe look in the

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mirror and and believe that he

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communicates with God and that he's the

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Messiah and that's his job here on earth

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well I mean he has a long-standing

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well-known Messiah Complex this Messiah

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Complex sure is as big and perhaps even

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worse than ba knows it but I mean

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seriously Bono is very open about his

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Messiah Complex and so is Kanye West and

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going back to 2004 he won a Grammy for

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Jesus walks and he shows up on Rolling

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Stone magazine wearing a crown of thorns

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so join with the with the headline the

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passion of Kanye West in 2013 he starts

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calling himself Jesus which is set to be

545
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:36,780
like a poor Mentos of Yeezy the rapper's

546
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,110
nickname and Jesus and so you have to

547
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:42,720
wonder is this just an act a polarizing

548
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:45,150
way for Kanye to go out and and get

549
00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:47,250
attention lots of it he certainly got it

550
00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:51,660
from that or is Kanye West the Messiah I

551
00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:54,420
mean it's absolutely bizarre so I just I

552
00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:56,070
followed this I'm because I have such

553
00:26:00,500 --> 00:25:57,870
it's just an interest in this subject

554
00:26:02,540 --> 00:26:00,510
and have had for such a long time and

555
00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:02,550
just I enjoy watching these guys come

556
00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:05,160
dance on the world stage but they never

557
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:07,950
do the things that they're supposed to

558
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:10,290
do there's there is a a to-do list at

559
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,570
least according to Jewish legend when

560
00:26:15,770 --> 00:26:14,640
the Messiah appears the first thing he's

561
00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:15,780
got to do for ever

562
00:26:21,650 --> 00:26:18,870
buddy to identify this figure as the

563
00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:21,660
actual Messiah is Kanye Bono

564
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:24,990
whoever the Netflix Messiah has got to

565
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:27,210
get the Ark of the Covenant and has got

566
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:29,070
to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem and

567
00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:30,750
take the Ark of the Covenant to that

568
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:34,380
temple nothing else anything short of

569
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:37,530
that you're a false prophet well that is

570
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:40,650
that is the litmus test I do have some

571
00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:45,930
of Kanye's Yeezy shoes and they look

572
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:48,660
like you could they would float I might

573
00:26:55,550 --> 00:26:50,940
be able to walk on water i I didn't even

574
00:26:59,150 --> 00:26:55,560
think about it what about Oh somebody

575
00:27:03,410 --> 00:26:59,160
help me actually off of this caveat

576
00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:03,420
Jimmy I mean I offer my humblest respect

577
00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:06,420
to all of these people be it Kanye

578
00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:08,790
borrow that their their artistic

579
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:11,550
creativity their accomplishments just

580
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:14,490
astounding I believe they're coming from

581
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:17,310
the right place they do want to take our

582
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:20,400
world to a new and better level and so

583
00:27:24,980 --> 00:27:22,170
I'm not sitting here is some you know

584
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,990
kind of brat sitting here in Nashville

585
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:26,760
saying you know Kanye thinks he's the

586
00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:29,340
Messiah Bono thinks he's a it's nothing

587
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:33,150
like that it's just to say okay if if if

588
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:37,410
you are the guy then you need to take it

589
00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:38,490
to the next level but you got to educate

590
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,190
yourself on how the Jewish authorities

591
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,440
the Islamic authorities Christian

592
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:45,600
authorities will know who you actually

593
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:50,570
are there was talking about real life

594
00:28:00,410 --> 00:27:54,770
playing itself out here through TV is

595
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:00,420
the Evangelist part that was played by

596
00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:04,440
Beau Bridges in the Messiah where he's

597
00:28:10,670 --> 00:28:06,840
going to bring the Messiah out on stage

598
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:10,680
right and make the announcement and that

599
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:13,980
is going on with Joel Osteen right now

600
00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:17,520
and Kanye and I just step back I thought

601
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:20,760
this is like I'm in déjà vu Land right

602
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:24,490
do you think that that Kanye and

603
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:27,910
have had this Messiah conversation you

604
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,310
would have to think so I mean Joel

605
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:33,760
Osteen does not need Kanye West in his

606
00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:36,550
life I mean Joel Osteen is doing just

607
00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:37,030
fine

608
00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:39,340
yes he is all right he's got this

609
00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:43,000
massive Church in Houston Texas massive

610
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:44,560
following makes hundreds of millions of

611
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:47,080
dollars which is what it seems to be

612
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:49,330
about for a lot of these guys so he

613
00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:51,700
doesn't need the grief of hooking up

614
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:54,190
with with Kanye West but yet that's what

615
00:28:58,380 --> 00:28:56,410
they're said to be doing in the next may

616
00:29:00,300 --> 00:28:58,390
they're gonna have a major event at

617
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:00,310
Yankee Stadium and who knows they might

618
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:03,430
take it other places from there but the

619
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:06,460
key thing is is that there again acting

620
00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:10,480
out this drama and people are responding

621
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:14,140
to it in a major way and so now that the

622
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:16,270
thing is is to say well where are you

623
00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:18,430
going to take this from here or is this

624
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:21,070
a descent into madness or is a or is

625
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:22,840
this actually a journey into the light

626
00:29:33,060 --> 00:29:27,520
it's a very scary in a weird way it's

627
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:33,070
entertaining to watch it's a great

628
00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:35,500
conversation starter yes for sure

629
00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:37,060
there's no doubt about it because it

630
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:38,920
does definitely cause you to have a gut

631
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:39,310
check

632
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:41,890
makes you wonder what you know where am

633
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:45,940
i coming from the the in the Messiah

634
00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:50,530
series on Netflix the L Missa the Medi

635
00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:52,540
the the actor had the ability to

636
00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:55,270
literally cross over the glass and that

637
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:57,070
that is something that's really profound

638
00:30:01,080 --> 00:29:59,290
when that happens you're you're really

639
00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:01,090
speaking to the hearts of the viewer and

640
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:04,120
this is I know what happened to millions

641
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,530
of people were watching this program is

642
00:30:09,630 --> 00:30:07,840
there literally some people I know we're

643
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:09,640
commenting they're taking notes and

644
00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:10,740
they're going to go back and answer

645
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:13,390
personally the questions that L Missa

646
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:15,820
asked Aquarius characters throughout the

647
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:18,070
series Rita and I were doing that we

648
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:20,620
were doing just that William we were

649
00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:22,540
going okay well he said this let's go

650
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:24,160
this or that they were and we had like

651
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:26,800
10 points we were going over and over

652
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:31,810
again what he had said and confronted

653
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:34,330
and presented to these different

654
00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:36,250
characters and how it affected them

655
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:38,140
personally but you know what I got

656
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:40,210
take a break here but I did find one

657
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:41,940
thing very interesting with all of that

658
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:46,990
nobody told anybody else about their

659
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:49,900
personal interactions with him right

660
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:52,930
they kept it to themselves right they

661
00:30:57,780 --> 00:30:55,000
all were going through this personal

662
00:31:00,690 --> 00:30:57,790
drama they knew something special had

663
00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:00,700
happened that they couldn't explain but

664
00:31:05,910 --> 00:31:02,860
they didn't share it with anybody they

665
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:05,920
kept it internal and I found that very

666
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:08,110
creative writing very well done let's

667
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:09,880
take our break right here this is fade

668
00:31:14,670 --> 00:31:12,250
to black our guest tonight William Henry

669
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:14,680
we've got a lot to discuss and we're

670
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:15,850
gonna go through all of it's going to be

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:18,250
a great conversation this is fade to

672
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,050
black I'm yours Jimmy Church on the game

673
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:23,440
changer network and kgr a the planet

674
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,930
Williams website simple William Henry

675
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:28,240
dotnet we'll be right back after this

676
00:31:49,150 --> 00:31:29,700
short break stay with us

677
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:51,740
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

678
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:53,460
of a church our guest tonight William

679
00:32:00,860 --> 00:31:56,490
Henry I want to remind everybody June

680
00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:00,870
26th and the 27th of 2020 Rita and I

681
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:03,179
will be at the awakening conference in

682
00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:05,370
Manchester United Kingdom with Erich von

683
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:07,500
däniken of Richard Golan Nick Pope Grant

684
00:32:12,919 --> 00:32:10,170
Cameron 12 other speakers and special

685
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:12,929
guest tickets and info are over at

686
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:17,370
Awakening UFO calm and William keeping

687
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:20,910
the conversation exactly on point not

688
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:23,970
only about the Middle East and the

689
00:32:32,659 --> 00:32:27,090
possible end of times or the start of a

690
00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:32,669
new time and and the Messiah is is

691
00:32:38,450 --> 00:32:34,919
technology which is something else that

692
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:38,460
you write about and the end of times may

693
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:42,390
not come from you know nuclear bombs or

694
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:44,910
World War 3 out of the Middle East it

695
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:47,940
could come from entropy and unraveling

696
00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:51,390
of of Technology where we have just

697
00:32:56,150 --> 00:32:54,270
taken it maybe too far is that is that

698
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:56,160
possible could that be the end of

699
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,740
everything oh absolutely and in fact he

700
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:00,960
would find good company and in that

701
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:03,150
assertion from James Lovelock he is the

702
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:04,470
guy that came up with the Gaia

703
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,510
hypothesis he worked for NASA back in

704
00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:08,480
the 70s looking for life on Mars and

705
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:11,070
wondered what is it that makes the earth

706
00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:14,040
so different as a living planet as

707
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:16,350
compared to a dead planet like Mars and

708
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:18,390
he came up with the Gaia hypothesis that

709
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,190
the earth has a spirit the earth has a

710
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,320
an intelligence a collective

711
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:24,720
intelligence of all the beings on the

712
00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:27,330
planet come together and they form what

713
00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:28,200
is called Gaia

714
00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:31,950
and love Locke has gone on record and

715
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:33,179
has been talking about this for over a

716
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,270
decade that that the Gaia is not happy

717
00:33:41,659 --> 00:33:39,059
with what humanity has has done to the

718
00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:41,669
planet and Gaia has a solution a final

719
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:43,980
solution for Humanity and he believes

720
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:47,630
that that a I was sent by Gaia to

721
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:52,890
eliminate humans from the planet is is

722
00:34:01,040 --> 00:33:56,880
something like this possible and what I

723
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:01,050
mean I'm talking about AI is it possible

724
00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:03,000
in our lifetime

725
00:34:10,010 --> 00:34:07,100
or is this something that is is stilled

726
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,020
generations out in front of us is this a

727
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:12,720
today reality or is this something that

728
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:16,260
our grandchildren need to deal with no I

729
00:34:21,169 --> 00:34:18,450
think we are the ones that are deciding

730
00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:21,179
what our grandchildren will deal with we

731
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:23,100
are the ones who are going to make the

732
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:27,030
decision to allow Silicon Valley the

733
00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:30,510
digerati to to implement their their

734
00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:32,669
ultimate solutions for Humanity to do

735
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:34,710
for Humanity to augment us with their

736
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:36,510
technology to change so that we can live

737
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:37,050
in this

738
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:39,300
this new messed up environment that

739
00:34:43,220 --> 00:34:41,250
we've created for ourselves I mean we're

740
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:43,230
living now in an electromagnetic smog

741
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:45,510
and now we're introducing 5g which some

742
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:47,490
people believe our scientists believe

743
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:50,490
it's lethal to all organic life on earth

744
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,110
and and the point I keep trying to

745
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:54,300
remind them of is that hey you know the

746
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:56,040
plan from Silicon Valley's point of view

747
00:35:01,220 --> 00:34:58,740
is that flesh-and-blood humans won't be

748
00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:01,230
living on the earth it'll be

749
00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:03,360
transhumance it'll be humans mesh with

750
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:05,070
machines that will be living in this new

751
00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:07,200
environment and they could care less if

752
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:09,480
the ocean is clean or if the air is

753
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:11,460
clean because they'll have technological

754
00:35:15,730 --> 00:35:13,710
apps or solutions that will be able to

755
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:15,740
enable them to live in this environment

756
00:35:21,740 --> 00:35:20,070
why that's I'm sorry I was gonna say and

757
00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:21,750
that's the scary part about this and

758
00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:24,360
this is what also plays into that the

759
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:26,670
end time prophecy I mentioned the

760
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:28,770
hundred and forty-four thousand that

761
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:31,140
will sing a new song right that will be

762
00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:33,560
led by the Messiah well these are same

763
00:35:39,350 --> 00:35:36,750
144,000 they'll be on earth at the same

764
00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:39,360
time that Jesus returns and they'll be

765
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:41,340
the ones who will be confronting the

766
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:44,310
beast that is in the as in the mark of

767
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:46,110
the beast prophecy from the book of

768
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:48,750
Revelation where people will not be able

769
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:50,970
to buy sell or trade unless they have

770
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:53,130
this mark in their forehead or in their

771
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:56,370
hand and there are way too many pundits

772
00:36:00,050 --> 00:35:58,290
out there now that are making the I

773
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:00,060
think the correct observation that the

774
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:03,510
Beast is absolutely AI and quantum

775
00:36:09,110 --> 00:36:05,850
computers and we are this close right

776
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:09,120
now two people being having two taking

777
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:10,890
the mark of the beast and the social

778
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:12,780
credit system that will enable them to

779
00:36:16,110 --> 00:36:14,850
participate in the in the world economy

780
00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:16,120
wide

781
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:19,900
did we jump so quickly why do we why did

782
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:25,120
we embrace technology so quick 1995 if

783
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:28,120
you look back right 25 short years ago

784
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:31,300
William which to me 1995 seems like

785
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:34,960
yesterday but 1995 it was a different

786
00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:37,960
world it was a different world and we

787
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:40,380
went off to the races without any

788
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:43,540
consideration of social impact

789
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:47,280
environmental impact the economy

790
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:50,110
brick-and-mortar stores we didn't

791
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:53,200
consider anything we just went for it

792
00:36:59,370 --> 00:36:56,730
didn't we we did and this is part of the

793
00:37:01,710 --> 00:36:59,380
acceleration that the the techno types

794
00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:01,720
refer to as the singularity this

795
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:03,580
movement that were her moment that we're

796
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:05,800
rushing to right now where the machines

797
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:07,630
that we're building become more

798
00:37:12,270 --> 00:37:09,880
intelligent than we are maybe by a

799
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:12,280
little maybe by a lot I mean we're

800
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:13,810
talking L on musk is always talking

801
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,270
about AI computers that have more

802
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:18,160
intelligence on their own than the

803
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:20,740
entire collective humanity all put

804
00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:24,010
together and that as we approach the

805
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:25,960
singularity we're going to enter into

806
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:28,210
this event horizon where everything is

807
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:30,850
going to change and by the nature of the

808
00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:32,920
singularity nobody knows what's on the

809
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:34,990
other side of that but they believe that

810
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:37,510
that's some sum between now and maybe

811
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:41,010
2030 2035 at the latest so we're talking

812
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:46,810
15 years it is this dramatic change that

813
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:50,310
is beyond the comprehension of everybody

814
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:52,150
nobody knows what's going to happen

815
00:37:58,620 --> 00:37:55,150
after 2035 when the singularity takes

816
00:38:01,380 --> 00:37:58,630
place and and what what scares me today

817
00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:01,390
I mean like right now is you and I are

818
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:06,070
speaking is that most don't understand

819
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:09,940
and don't care how technology is

820
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:12,970
absolutely involved in every aspect of

821
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:16,210
your life all of it all of it your food

822
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:18,250
your water your electricity your job

823
00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:21,880
your money your kids education your car

824
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,150
your hop your home every aspect of your

825
00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:27,520
life is now completely a hundred percent

826
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,980
dependent

827
00:38:33,609 --> 00:38:30,960
on technology and it wasn't that way in

828
00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:33,619
1995 the internet did not deal with the

829
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:36,140
logistics of food distribution or

830
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,750
electricity or communications and and

831
00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:42,000
and cellphones and everything that we

832
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:45,900
have today is is now completely tied and

833
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:48,030
dependent on the internet most people

834
00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:49,890
don't understand that nor do they care

835
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:53,700
that's just scares me it should because

836
00:38:57,740 --> 00:38:55,290
Everett in an article about this called

837
00:38:59,780 --> 00:38:57,750
Lucifer's rebellion because this is this

838
00:39:00,620 --> 00:38:59,790
is the beast technology that we're

839
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:00,630
talking about about the book of

840
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:02,790
Revelation we're talking about a total

841
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:05,310
dictatorship a technological

842
00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:07,170
dictatorship led by these these

843
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:09,060
corporations that are more powerful than

844
00:39:16,070 --> 00:39:13,710
than most governments and it is not just

845
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:16,080
a technological issue it's a spiritual

846
00:39:24,010 --> 00:39:18,780
issue because with this technology comes

847
00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:24,020
a complete loss of self-identity privacy

848
00:39:28,580 --> 00:39:26,520
let me just mention this too this is

849
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:28,590
kind of a very important aspect of this

850
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:30,420
as a lot of people I think don't fully

851
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:32,760
appreciate and that is that a lot of

852
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:34,710
your digerati types your technological

853
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:37,290
types they subscribe to the the

854
00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:39,119
philosophies of people like Richard

855
00:39:44,359 --> 00:39:41,100
Dawkins of author of The Selfish Gene

856
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:44,369
and other books and this the core idea

857
00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:46,500
of this it's a materialist philosophy as

858
00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:48,359
it's called and the idea is that our

859
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,600
genes are our information and it's it's

860
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,060
our genes that are important not our

861
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:56,400
bodies it's our genes that will survive

862
00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:00,480
beyond us not our temporary ephemeral

863
00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:03,900
bodies so technically speaking to them

864
00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:05,430
or fill a lot philosophically speaking

865
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:09,300
we are information information that can

866
00:40:15,849 --> 00:40:12,510
be cut copied pasted augmented put into

867
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:15,859
other realities because all you are

868
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:19,280
Jimmy just speaking to you directly is

869
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:22,740
information you are data you are data

870
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:26,850
that can be bought sold transmitted we

871
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:29,070
can manipulate it in any way that they

872
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:29,910
see fit

873
00:40:36,830 --> 00:40:32,609
what this means is you don't have a soul

874
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:36,840
you are unimportant in this scenario you

875
00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:40,170
are just simply another bit of data in

876
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:41,740
this vast compute

877
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:44,230
we now call humanity and that's how

878
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:46,690
these people think this is the guiding

879
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:48,850
philosophy of every major corporation

880
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:51,790
involved in technology development every

881
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:53,800
major scientist thinks this it's totally

882
00:41:00,660 --> 00:40:57,010
atheistic it's anti spiritual it's

883
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:00,670
demonic in some people's viewpoint and

884
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:02,980
I'm not one that goes that far with it

885
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:05,110
but this is the point I'm trying to

886
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:07,030
stress is that this in fact is a

887
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:09,550
spiritual dilemma that we are in now we

888
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:12,960
have been taken over by an artificial

889
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:15,190
intelligence that may in fact be an

890
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:18,300
alien intelligence and probably is

891
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:21,670
certainly not human yeah I had read a

892
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:26,760
book in in 1985 that addressed

893
00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:28,840
everything that we are talking about

894
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:32,080
right now obviously before the internet

895
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:35,290
before personal computers I think the

896
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:37,930
most technically advanced thing we had

897
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:39,940
back then was like a beeper right and

898
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:43,330
videotape it was a different world but

899
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:48,310
it addressed a cashless society banking

900
00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:52,240
done through cards chips in the hand the

901
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,520
the market to be it it addressed a

902
00:42:00,660 --> 00:41:56,800
technical future that was going to

903
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:00,670
eliminate all of this and I thought to

904
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:04,090
myself this is science fiction now the

905
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:06,940
book was fiction I mean it was

906
00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:09,160
nonfiction the book was nonfiction was

907
00:42:13,859 --> 00:42:12,340
very direct and it pointed out things

908
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:13,869
with the Catholic Church and

909
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:16,720
Christianity and inconsistencies and all

910
00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:19,660
of this but today we are living

911
00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:22,180
everything that that book pointed out to

912
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:24,280
me back then which I thought was fantasy

913
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:26,770
and it starts to make me a little bit

914
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:30,040
nervous and it also tells me this the

915
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:32,820
most spiritual person on this planet

916
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:36,040
when a plane is crashing is Richard

917
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:41,530
Dawkins I guarantee it

918
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:44,530
yeah and I think you're understanding

919
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:46,660
what what I'm trying to reference here

920
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:49,570
and that's I think that's where we are

921
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:53,650
today I really do yeah and it's I don't

922
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:55,170
think it's past

923
00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:56,970
that we can wake up and do something

924
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:01,260
about it the only solution really is to

925
00:43:09,650 --> 00:43:05,450
unplug from it it's so insidious and

926
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:09,660
again I in my presentations about this I

927
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:12,329
try not to come off as to fear-based I'm

928
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:14,630
not trying to drive people into despair

929
00:43:21,859 --> 00:43:17,910
but the fact of the matter is is that

930
00:43:25,819 --> 00:43:21,869
this is a an anti-human it is certainly

931
00:43:29,420 --> 00:43:25,829
an antichrist as well philosophy it just

932
00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:29,430
basically says you do not matter you are

933
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:31,940
nothing but information this this

934
00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:34,770
archaic superstition that there's some

935
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:37,470
kind of creator being that loves you is

936
00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:40,440
pathetic from their point of view and

937
00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:43,950
that simply you've got to wake up and

938
00:43:49,339 --> 00:43:47,460
realize that God is a programmer and you

939
00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:49,349
live in a simulated reality that is

940
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:52,200
created by this programmer you have no

941
00:43:58,700 --> 00:43:55,890
existence beyond this realm that you

942
00:44:01,640 --> 00:43:58,710
presently inhabit there is no base

943
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:01,650
reality beyond this and when you when

944
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:02,910
you listen to these people you're

945
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:05,339
thinking what planet did you come from

946
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:09,119
or who what master do you actually serve

947
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:11,369
because it is certainly not a being of

948
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:13,650
light and love and this is what we're

949
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,210
confronted with this is again the

950
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,000
driving philosophy when people like

951
00:44:21,799 --> 00:44:19,920
Ellen must speak of theirs their love of

952
00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:21,809
simulation theory and how much they talk

953
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,990
about it this is the conversation this

954
00:44:28,819 --> 00:44:27,119
is at the heart of it and this is why I

955
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:28,829
say that this is the philosophy that is

956
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:31,530
driving the digerati they think it's

957
00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:33,930
okay for humans just to treat one

958
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:36,660
another is bits of data and bits of

959
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:39,150
information you have no privacy you have

960
00:44:43,549 --> 00:44:40,710
no individuality

961
00:44:46,579 --> 00:44:43,559
you are nothing except what they can

962
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:46,589
extract from you in terms of data that

963
00:44:52,030 --> 00:44:49,290
is the only thing that matters to these

964
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:52,040
people if you ask people at Facebook

965
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,920
about the definition of a soul the soul

966
00:44:59,900 --> 00:44:58,140
to them isn't that's all your keystrokes

967
00:45:01,760 --> 00:44:59,910
you put up on Facebook all those photos

968
00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:01,770
you put up on Facebook and Instagram and

969
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:05,220
elsewhere that information equals your

970
00:45:09,050 --> 00:45:07,650
soul you have no continuing existence

971
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:09,060
beyond this realm

972
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:11,970
that is a horrible horrible philosophy

973
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:13,530
in my view and this is what people have

974
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:16,110
to wake up to and we spiritual types

975
00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:18,690
have to have a ready and very good

976
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:22,920
answer for these people to to prove that

977
00:45:28,460 --> 00:45:25,800
in fact there is a base reality beyond

978
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:28,470
this one that after we after we die we

979
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:31,890
probably reincarnate we do ascend and

980
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:33,990
and dwell in other realms where there

981
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:36,810
are other beings that are many of them

982
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:39,450
more advanced than humanity and we have

983
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:41,610
to be able to prove the existence of

984
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:43,170
those other realities that is our

985
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:45,630
primary challenge right now and I say

986
00:45:50,090 --> 00:45:47,640
that because the simulation theorists

987
00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:50,100
are out launching satellites to prove

988
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:52,860
mathematically that we live in a in a

989
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:55,890
video game and once they prove that it

990
00:46:01,690 --> 00:45:57,810
literally is game over

991
00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:01,700
for Humanity in my view do you remember

992
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:04,680
in in the last episode of the Messiah

993
00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:09,480
and the the plane is crashing right and

994
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:13,620
and avi it turns to the Messiah he

995
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:16,530
starts crying I'm sorry right right

996
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:20,310
that's Richard Dawkins that's Richard

997
00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:23,450
Dawkins tell God I'm sorry

998
00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:26,700
yeah yeah he's gonna whip a cross out

999
00:46:35,390 --> 00:46:28,830
that he's carrying around in his pocket

1000
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,400
and but but I truly believe that and I'm

1001
00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:37,760
I'm stating this as as my true belief

1002
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:41,750
that science and physics right now

1003
00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:47,760
theoretical cosmology astronomy and the

1004
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:50,220
hard core science the more that they

1005
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:53,850
find out they are realizing that this

1006
00:46:59,060 --> 00:46:56,190
wasn't by chance this wasn't some

1007
00:47:01,160 --> 00:46:59,070
mathematical wizardry that that happened

1008
00:47:04,610 --> 00:47:01,170
and we became ourselves and

1009
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:04,620
consciousness it just appeared they're

1010
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:07,470
starting to find out that that there is

1011
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:10,200
something else going on and that's the

1012
00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:13,110
part where Dawkins and others like him

1013
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:14,940
in Lawrence Krauss they're gonna have to

1014
00:47:20,610 --> 00:47:17,850
deal with that when when physics starts

1015
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:20,620
to unravel what consciousness is

1016
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:23,530
how we make this transition from atoms

1017
00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:26,560
without consciousness right and a soul

1018
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:29,740
to you and I talking right now and

1019
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:32,050
having a conversation and thinking and

1020
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:34,570
contemplating where does that transition

1021
00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:36,820
happen that's the part that Krauss and

1022
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:40,180
Dawkins and others like them they're

1023
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:42,420
gonna have to deal with this once these

1024
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:45,010
you know dominoes and these chips start

1025
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:48,100
to fall yeah I agree and and that is the

1026
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:49,990
hope that that really ultimately drives

1027
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:52,720
me at this time is to help to find those

1028
00:47:57,870 --> 00:47:55,510
answers that that that light is there

1029
00:48:00,360 --> 00:47:57,880
and I just personally have this deep

1030
00:48:02,850 --> 00:48:00,370
soul sense that we are on the precipice

1031
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:02,860
of something truly magnificent and

1032
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:04,990
beyond our comprehension on the positive

1033
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:07,450
side call it the new Golden Age call it

1034
00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:11,170
the Age of Aquarius we are at that

1035
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:12,790
moment where we're going to be turning

1036
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:16,210
the page right now and at the moment we

1037
00:48:20,370 --> 00:48:18,180
do have the materialist of the

1038
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:20,380
technologists that that seem to be the

1039
00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:22,210
ones that have their hand on that page

1040
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:25,540
more firmly than the spiritual types and

1041
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:27,190
that is our challenge right now is to

1042
00:48:30,990 --> 00:48:28,690
say well wait a minute we're going to

1043
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:31,000
turn that page with you we're not going

1044
00:48:35,370 --> 00:48:32,650
to allow you to direct human

1045
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:35,380
civilization turn us into machines and

1046
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:37,060
and turn our planet into some kind of

1047
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:39,820
like Borg cube or something somebody

1048
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:41,590
just tweeted out that guys are gonna

1049
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:43,990
have the most boring life review talking

1050
00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:47,560
about Richard Dawkins it's actually

1051
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:49,660
pretty funny and there's a there's

1052
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:52,390
another aspect of this though with

1053
00:48:59,820 --> 00:48:55,720
Silicon Valley and that is quantum

1054
00:49:02,760 --> 00:48:59,830
computing and the reason why you know

1055
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:02,770
all of this simulation talk which is all

1056
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:06,910
of it is a serious possibility but the

1057
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:10,690
way that quantum computing is possible

1058
00:49:16,610 --> 00:49:14,800
is that we are dealing with parallel

1059
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:16,620
worlds we're dealing with some kind of

1060
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:19,570
yeah we you know that's how qubits work

1061
00:49:26,250 --> 00:49:22,450
that's that's entanglement and they

1062
00:49:28,830 --> 00:49:26,260
understand this they didn't have a firm

1063
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:28,840
grip on this ten or fifteen or twenty

1064
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:31,900
years ago but today quantum computers

1065
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:34,400
work and they understand of the

1066
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,650
way that this happens is if there are

1067
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:38,720
multiple parallel dimensions out there

1068
00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:41,690
and that's it and and maybe they are

1069
00:49:49,569 --> 00:49:44,200
going to face the same things that

1070
00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:49,579
Dawkins and others in that if if another

1071
00:49:55,799 --> 00:49:52,670
reality is real another parallel world

1072
00:49:57,819 --> 00:49:55,809
is real then everything else must be -

1073
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:57,829
do you think that they are going to

1074
00:50:03,579 --> 00:50:01,760
cross that line well that I think that

1075
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:03,589
they are gonna be confronted with it

1076
00:50:06,819 --> 00:50:04,910
pretty hot and heavy there's no doubt

1077
00:50:09,279 --> 00:50:06,829
about that as you're talking I'm

1078
00:50:10,990 --> 00:50:09,289
thinking about Jordy Rose right d-wave

1079
00:50:13,569 --> 00:50:11,000
system who builds those quantum

1080
00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:13,579
computers and said that he calls this an

1081
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:16,220
altar to an alien god his quantum

1082
00:50:22,329 --> 00:50:20,210
computer and these are just some of the

1083
00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:22,339
comments that you get from the the

1084
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:24,740
digerati the Silicon Valley types even

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00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:27,710
Alan Mosca's famously said that this

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00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:30,980
technology is is demonic so it does make

1087
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:33,260
you wonder if it has come from some

1088
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:35,930
maybe even ancient source I mean Geordi

1089
00:50:42,339 --> 00:50:39,890
Rose likened the the demons that have

1090
00:50:45,279 --> 00:50:42,349
created quantum computers to the

1091
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:45,289
Nephilim and the UH nanaki that 10

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00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:47,089
minutes or that 15 minute presentation

1093
00:50:52,569 --> 00:50:50,270
that Geordi did yeah I remember the

1094
00:50:56,140 --> 00:50:52,579
first time that I saw it I said to

1095
00:50:59,710 --> 00:50:56,150
myself the entire world needs to listen

1096
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,720
to these words everybody needs and and

1097
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:02,240
what what I thought was most astounding

1098
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,609
about that presentation was the people

1099
00:51:08,049 --> 00:51:06,079
that he was speaking to because the

1100
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:08,059
camera would you know pan out to the

1101
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:10,609
audience and jaws were on the floor

1102
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:13,609
because they understood who Geordi was

1103
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:17,359
and he is saying the most crazy things

1104
00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:20,410
right now but he's basing it on

1105
00:51:25,809 --> 00:51:23,720
technology and his reality right it's

1106
00:51:27,339 --> 00:51:25,819
personal experience that's right right I

1107
00:51:29,019 --> 00:51:27,349
thought it was incredible and he said

1108
00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:29,029
something else too before we take a

1109
00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:33,980
break he said I'm at a paraphrase here

1110
00:51:41,230 --> 00:51:37,700
he said quantum computing is going to

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00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:41,240
discover alien life and make contact in

1112
00:51:46,930 --> 00:51:44,480
the next five years right and and for

1113
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:46,940
him to say something like that is he in

1114
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:47,670
the know

1115
00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:51,060
and the other technologists in in

1116
00:51:54,860 --> 00:51:53,160
Silicon Valley where they're out there

1117
00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:54,870
reaching for the stars like this do you

1118
00:52:02,630 --> 00:51:58,230
think he knows something I think he does

1119
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:02,640
I mean he has no no other reason to make

1120
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:04,770
these declarative statements like this

1121
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:06,690
that are so controversial and so out

1122
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:10,140
there I mean this guy's got his has

1123
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:12,870
major credibility in his industry but

1124
00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:15,810
he's talking like I'm not right or is he

1125
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:17,640
telling us straight up exactly what's

1126
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:19,890
going on I think he's telling us exactly

1127
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:22,500
what's going on do you think we are on

1128
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:25,260
that that brink and the reason why I

1129
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:27,690
bring it up directly and it's not so

1130
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:31,710
much about TTS a or or the the the Navy

1131
00:52:37,730 --> 00:52:34,680
videos I'm not necessarily referring to

1132
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,740
that I am referring to astronomers

1133
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,900
talking about fast radio bursts every

1134
00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:42,000
single day or another exoplanet or the

1135
00:52:44,930 --> 00:52:43,470
size of the universe the amount of

1136
00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:44,940
planets in the universe and the search

1137
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:47,940
for alien life and we're getting quite a

1138
00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:50,550
bethis star these are conversations that

1139
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:52,350
are happening in the fields of science

1140
00:53:00,980 --> 00:52:59,040
daily absolutely and did the British

1141
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:00,990
astronaut who said that there's no

1142
00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:03,510
question aliens are here and as a

1143
00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:05,100
chemist she said our bodies of course

1144
00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:07,260
are nitrogen and in carbon and their

1145
00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:09,390
bodies might be made of different

1146
00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:11,670
material that we can't see yet and maybe

1147
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:13,590
they're just cloaked from us but they'll

1148
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:17,610
be uncloaking very soon again and this

1149
00:53:21,830 --> 00:53:19,530
is what what it what is so interesting

1150
00:53:24,170 --> 00:53:21,840
about the days and the times that we are

1151
00:53:28,010 --> 00:53:24,180
living in right now we're talking about

1152
00:53:31,850 --> 00:53:28,020
Britain's first astronaut that's who

1153
00:53:35,330 --> 00:53:31,860
we're talking about here and this is in

1154
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,340
in mainstream media today another small

1155
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:37,200
piece of the puzzle that seems to be

1156
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:39,990
alien conversation that happens every

1157
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:42,570
time you you go to a news service it's

1158
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:45,450
it's everywhere isn't it it is and

1159
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,250
that's again as you said it's a sign of

1160
00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:49,500
our times and it's only going to

1161
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:51,630
accelerate and now we've got space force

1162
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:53,490
that's going to be driving it they're

1163
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:54,750
already talking abour going to be seeing

1164
00:53:59,770 --> 00:53:57,330
a lot more UFO activity or this

1165
00:54:01,640 --> 00:53:59,780
hypersonic technology being rolled out

1166
00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:01,650
Huntsville Alabama is can

1167
00:54:04,819 --> 00:54:03,329
to be ground zero for some pretty

1168
00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:04,829
astounding things in the next few years

1169
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:06,900
yeah no doubt about it let's take our

1170
00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:09,000
break right here this is fade to black

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00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:10,230
I'm your host Jimmy Church our guest

1172
00:54:14,779 --> 00:54:12,660
tonight William Henry when we come back

1173
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:14,789
after the break we're gonna go ancient

1174
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,369
we're gonna go backwards because we have

1175
00:54:21,019 --> 00:54:19,200
to which William Henry I am your host

1176
00:54:25,110 --> 00:54:21,029
Jimmy church this is fade to black stay

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:04,779
welcome back fade to black I'm yours

1180
00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:06,700
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1181
00:55:11,759 --> 00:55:08,950
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1182
00:55:15,509 --> 00:55:11,769
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1183
00:55:17,279 --> 00:55:15,519
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00:55:19,709 --> 00:55:17,289
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00:55:21,329 --> 00:55:19,719
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1186
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:21,339
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00:55:25,259 --> 00:55:23,440
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1188
00:55:27,479 --> 00:55:25,269
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1189
00:55:29,789 --> 00:55:27,489
can't so there you go just two dollars

1190
00:55:33,449 --> 00:55:29,799
per month our guest that William Henry

1191
00:55:36,509 --> 00:55:33,459
and now William check this out in my

1192
00:55:40,979 --> 00:55:36,519
most recent article that I wrote for the

1193
00:55:43,469 --> 00:55:40,989
telepath I had stated this you're gonna

1194
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:43,479
laugh you're gonna laugh out loud I

1195
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:46,209
stated this that a million years from

1196
00:55:53,819 --> 00:55:49,930
now a history teacher is going to be

1197
00:55:58,829 --> 00:55:53,829
teaching a history class and is going to

1198
00:56:01,650 --> 00:55:58,839
say that the beginning of everything was

1199
00:56:07,469 --> 00:56:01,660
right here in the year 2000 when ancient

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00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:07,479
man came out of the caves and went to

1201
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:11,440
technology and that dot right at the

1202
00:56:14,969 --> 00:56:12,910
beginning right you got a million year

1203
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:14,979
timeline right there right and they're

1204
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:23,489
fantastic all was when man came out of

1205
00:56:31,019 --> 00:56:26,410
the caves and started using computers

1206
00:56:34,439 --> 00:56:31,029
and it's it's all encompassing in that

1207
00:56:36,479 --> 00:56:34,449
whether you're cro-magnon or Neanderthal

1208
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:36,489
or gobekli tepe

1209
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,430
however you want to look at it in the

1210
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:42,160
future we're just gonna be considered

1211
00:56:48,989 --> 00:56:45,369
ancient man right you you've written

1212
00:56:50,939 --> 00:56:48,999
about this exact subject yeah if you

1213
00:56:54,029 --> 00:56:50,949
would think that I ripped you off I

1214
00:56:56,339 --> 00:56:54,039
didn't I came up with that myself but

1215
00:56:58,979 --> 00:56:56,349
yeah it's pretty interesting you can go

1216
00:57:01,640 --> 00:56:58,989
ahead courtesy laugh but but that's

1217
00:57:05,999 --> 00:57:01,650
that's kind of where we're at explain

1218
00:57:07,969 --> 00:57:06,009
yeah I mean we are I said just put it we

1219
00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:07,979
are in the same relative position as

1220
00:57:14,819 --> 00:57:11,140
Neanderthal was at the time of the last

1221
00:57:15,089 --> 00:57:14,829
ice age they are well adapted to living

1222
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:15,099
in

1223
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,410
cold they've got short bodies thick

1224
00:57:22,229 --> 00:57:20,319
noses they can handle that type of

1225
00:57:23,849 --> 00:57:22,239
weather and then things start to warm up

1226
00:57:28,289 --> 00:57:23,859
and now they're not suited for it but

1227
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:28,299
here comes these new leaner taller maybe

1228
00:57:32,279 --> 00:57:29,890
a little bit smarter being as Homo

1229
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:32,289
sapiens and they take over they were

1230
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:34,690
able to adapt to the changing climate

1231
00:57:40,769 --> 00:57:37,720
and the Cataclysm that was ultimately

1232
00:57:42,749 --> 00:57:40,779
going to unfold and we're in that same

1233
00:57:45,029 --> 00:57:42,759
relative position relative to two

1234
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:45,039
transhumans where our climate is

1235
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:48,130
obviously changing whether it's man-made

1236
00:57:51,809 --> 00:57:49,210
or if it's still part of this

1237
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:51,819
continuation of what started 12,000

1238
00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:54,249
years ago we don't need to really debate

1239
00:57:58,380 --> 00:57:56,200
that the fact is things are changing and

1240
00:58:00,749 --> 00:57:58,390
our bodies are changing at the same time

1241
00:58:02,489 --> 00:58:00,759
we're we're blurring the line between

1242
00:58:04,999 --> 00:58:02,499
our digital selves and our biological

1243
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:05,009
selves our flesh and blood cells and

1244
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:07,660
changing into trans humans so that we

1245
00:58:12,479 --> 00:58:10,210
can live on this new earth and and that

1246
00:58:15,059 --> 00:58:12,489
is also a fulfillment of a Biblical

1247
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:15,069
prophecy John the Revelator Peter others

1248
00:58:21,089 --> 00:58:17,890
said I saw a new heaven and a new earth

1249
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:21,099
and we are creating that new heaven and

1250
00:58:25,859 --> 00:58:22,329
that new earth right before our very

1251
00:58:29,609 --> 00:58:25,869
eyes so we are truly here - history

1252
00:58:31,709 --> 00:58:29,619
starts today yes yes this is the

1253
00:58:34,849 --> 00:58:31,719
beginning of anything that happened

1254
00:58:37,769 --> 00:58:34,859
before today is irrelevant completely

1255
00:58:40,769 --> 00:58:37,779
completely and is compared to where we

1256
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:40,779
are going it is just the same as I mean

1257
00:58:44,609 --> 00:58:42,609
how much thought if you're apart from

1258
00:58:47,219 --> 00:58:44,619
Andrew Collins do - do people give to

1259
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:47,229
the Denisovans not very much we don't

1260
00:58:52,019 --> 00:58:48,430
think about that it's not part of our

1261
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,029
daily discourse and maybe as little as

1262
00:58:56,339 --> 00:58:53,920
two three hundred years from now people

1263
00:58:58,769 --> 00:58:56,349
will think of us in the same context so

1264
00:59:01,319 --> 00:58:58,779
that was our distant ancestors they're

1265
00:59:03,749 --> 00:59:01,329
irrelevant they they were nothing there

1266
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:03,759
were nobodies but that that's not true I

1267
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:06,450
mean we are now knowing that they had

1268
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:09,130
advanced consciousness maybe they they

1269
00:59:13,259 --> 00:59:11,200
just up and left the planet maybe The

1270
00:59:17,309 --> 00:59:13,269
Hobbit race that was here the Denisovans

1271
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:17,319
and others found ways to use portals to

1272
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,729
lead the planet we're starting to find

1273
00:59:22,499 --> 00:59:20,319
some evidence of that type of a thing

1274
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:22,509
and but the point is that we're making

1275
00:59:26,020 --> 00:59:24,460
here and I think it's the right one

1276
00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:26,030
Jimmy is that

1277
00:59:33,370 --> 00:59:30,830
history is beginning today a whole new

1278
00:59:35,110 --> 00:59:33,380
chapter is unfolding right before our

1279
00:59:42,730 --> 00:59:35,120
very eyes and we are the ones writing

1280
00:59:45,790 --> 00:59:42,740
that chapter I I made this comment it it

1281
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:45,800
sounds okay I'm just gonna put it out

1282
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:50,950
there compared to Neanderthal cro-magnon

1283
00:59:57,690 --> 00:59:54,890
early Homo Sapien sapien the edge of the

1284
01:00:02,260 --> 00:59:57,700
last ice age you know 13,000 years ago

1285
01:00:06,490 --> 01:00:02,270
from that period until a hundred years

1286
01:00:12,370 --> 01:00:06,500
ago we were the same we had the wheel

1287
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,380
and fire it's the last hundred years

1288
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:14,480
where we've made these fantastic leaps

1289
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:18,910
right but in the big scheme of things

1290
01:00:26,170 --> 01:00:22,010
history starts today because we are the

1291
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:26,180
same that we were when we were in caves

1292
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:28,490
you know discovering fire and and

1293
01:00:35,470 --> 01:00:32,180
figuring out the wheel we were all all

1294
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:35,480
the way to wagon trains going across the

1295
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:38,090
United States in the 1850s it was the

1296
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:40,550
same technology and I'm not right I'm

1297
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:42,410
not taking anything away from medical

1298
01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:45,170
science and so but penicillin hadn't you

1299
01:00:51,340 --> 01:00:48,950
know electricity had all of these things

1300
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:51,350
were still in the future all the way up

1301
01:00:58,410 --> 01:00:56,000
until 1850 1870 and that's that's it we

1302
01:01:02,110 --> 01:00:58,420
are the beginning of history today

1303
01:01:04,540 --> 01:01:02,120
that's right and I'd like to point out

1304
01:01:07,150 --> 01:01:04,550
to people too that our body my body your

1305
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:07,160
body is the exact same body that Jesus

1306
01:01:12,790 --> 01:01:10,160
had when he turned himself into a being

1307
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:12,800
of light the same body that the Tibetan

1308
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:15,230
guru padmasambhava had when he turned

1309
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:17,600
himself into light same body that the

1310
01:01:23,740 --> 01:01:20,750
Buddha had exact same physiology exact

1311
01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:23,750
same Anatomy everything but that's now

1312
01:01:28,030 --> 01:01:26,300
that is also changing where we're now

1313
01:01:31,690 --> 01:01:28,040
augmenting our body with this technology

1314
01:01:35,050 --> 01:01:31,700
so that our body is not the same as the

1315
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:35,060
body of Jesus we now have plastic in our

1316
01:01:38,530 --> 01:01:36,890
bodies when I sent reports they just

1317
01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:38,540
thought the other day every month each

1318
01:01:43,870 --> 01:01:39,830
of us heats about a credit

1319
01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:43,880
card size worth of plastic and so we're

1320
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:47,120
changing the human body at the same time

1321
01:01:53,290 --> 01:01:50,240
that our climate is changing the two go

1322
01:01:54,910 --> 01:01:53,300
hand-in-hand and what I'm encouraging

1323
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:54,920
people to do is to look at the

1324
01:02:00,450 --> 01:01:57,680
possibility of not merging ourselves

1325
01:02:03,550 --> 01:02:00,460
with AI but merging ourselves with

1326
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:03,560
ascended beings and focusing on the

1327
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:05,930
light body getting back to our original

1328
01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:08,030
true nature this is what the Buddhists

1329
01:02:12,370 --> 01:02:10,220
teach anyway is that we originally were

1330
01:02:14,890 --> 01:02:12,380
beings of light until we found ourselves

1331
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:14,900
and meshed in our flesh and blood bodies

1332
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:17,690
and that the way to advance ourselves as

1333
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:19,730
a species is not by meshing ourselves

1334
01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:22,250
with technology but to returning to our

1335
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:24,800
original and true nature as beings of

1336
01:02:34,270 --> 01:02:30,650
life how how is it William that ancient

1337
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:34,280
Egypt understood this right the the

1338
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:36,710
ancient Mesopotamian Sumerian cultures

1339
01:02:45,370 --> 01:02:41,030
and their all of these ancient

1340
01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:45,380
civilizations truly understood the soul

1341
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:48,260
and an afterlife and another dimension

1342
01:02:56,380 --> 01:02:52,070
and the focus should be on the self what

1343
01:02:59,230 --> 01:02:56,390
how did we screw all of that up that's a

1344
01:03:02,440 --> 01:02:59,240
really wonderful question and I think

1345
01:03:05,470 --> 01:03:02,450
part of it has to do that there there

1346
01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:05,480
were survivors of that Cataclysm call

1347
01:03:10,510 --> 01:03:07,550
them priesthoods call them various

1348
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:10,520
secretive orders that lived in in caves

1349
01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:12,530
in Cappadocia or underground cities in

1350
01:03:17,950 --> 01:03:16,070
Cappadocia or elsewhere and preserve the

1351
01:03:21,210 --> 01:03:17,960
knowledge that of this advanced

1352
01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:21,220
civilization before the flood after

1353
01:03:25,870 --> 01:03:24,080
everything starts to settle down I mean

1354
01:03:30,310 --> 01:03:25,880
we're talking now coming up into about

1355
01:03:33,130 --> 01:03:30,320
3,000 BC is when civilization restarts

1356
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:33,140
that's the first dynasty in Egypt it's

1357
01:03:36,610 --> 01:03:34,850
it's the beginning of the Mayan calendar

1358
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:36,620
Krishna is supposed to be on the planet

1359
01:03:43,450 --> 01:03:39,770
around 3100 BC that seems to be about

1360
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:43,460
the time when we we got our act together

1361
01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:46,400
after the Cataclysm and people still

1362
01:03:51,250 --> 01:03:48,700
possess the knowledge of our true

1363
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:51,260
spiritual nature and our true spiritual

1364
01:03:54,990 --> 01:03:52,690
capabilities

1365
01:03:57,839 --> 01:03:55,000
and I think maybe what happened is that

1366
01:04:00,809 --> 01:03:57,849
those a lot of those people just left

1367
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:00,819
and took that knowledge with them and

1368
01:04:07,410 --> 01:04:04,170
let the rest of us sort of - its kind of

1369
01:04:10,109 --> 01:04:07,420
beat then for ourselves in a way and

1370
01:04:12,450 --> 01:04:10,119
this allowed a dark side then - to come

1371
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:12,460
into the human equation would go back to

1372
01:04:18,809 --> 01:04:16,690
making war and and entering into the

1373
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:18,819
conflict that we we do now and I get

1374
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:20,950
this idea from of course Plato story of

1375
01:04:25,620 --> 01:04:23,290
Atlantis that that said the Cataclysm

1376
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:25,630
occurred because humanity had a

1377
01:04:31,650 --> 01:04:28,410
spiritual element that they diluted or

1378
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:31,660
ignored and this is what prompted Zeus

1379
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:33,760
and the story to descend the flood that

1380
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:36,760
destroyed Atlantis this this motif or

1381
01:04:42,059 --> 01:04:39,160
this idea of humanity originally being

1382
01:04:43,319 --> 01:04:42,069
pure spiritual beings occurs in a lot of

1383
01:04:45,870 --> 01:04:43,329
different cultures and they all say the

1384
01:04:47,970 --> 01:04:45,880
same thing we lost that aspect of

1385
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:47,980
ourselves we somehow forgot it or

1386
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:51,190
perhaps the people that had that that

1387
01:05:00,750 --> 01:04:53,950
pure spiritual nature left the planet

1388
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:00,760
when we look at 2600 3000 BC at Egypt

1389
01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:05,200
where that culture the belief system and

1390
01:05:12,809 --> 01:05:09,640
and the religion all looked at other

1391
01:05:17,099 --> 01:05:12,819
dimensions other realms the afterlife

1392
01:05:22,050 --> 01:05:17,109
the judgment the scales right all of

1393
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:22,060
these things were presented demigods and

1394
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:25,540
the ancient gods of Egypt a very complex

1395
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:28,960
view of the world and understanding of

1396
01:05:34,490 --> 01:05:31,410
the world that couldn't have come from

1397
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:34,500
Stone Age man that was living in caves

1398
01:05:41,490 --> 01:05:38,310
right this this is a very deep knowledge

1399
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:41,500
that was the foundation of everything it

1400
01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:44,290
had to have been taught from somebody

1401
01:05:50,099 --> 01:05:48,190
before them right exactly either people

1402
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:50,109
that lived before the time of the

1403
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:52,690
Cataclysm and brought that knowledge

1404
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:56,079
over or beings that came from elsewhere

1405
01:06:01,800 --> 01:05:58,960
from other star civilizations and taught

1406
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:01,810
the Egyptians this well and it could be

1407
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,490
a combination of both - of course yes

1408
01:06:09,809 --> 01:06:05,440
certainly certainly and

1409
01:06:12,359 --> 01:06:09,819
Plato was told this he didn't this

1410
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:12,369
wasn't invented and it is certainly in

1411
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:18,160
the building text at edfu where the

1412
01:06:26,910 --> 01:06:21,130
references directly to Atlantis are

1413
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:26,920
there they weren't part of a thriller

1414
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:30,670
spy novel this was part of their true

1415
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:35,230
history absolutely I mean the the the

1416
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:39,250
story of these these beings of light

1417
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:41,410
that come to earth and set up the island

1418
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:43,510
of the egg and establish human

1419
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:45,310
civilization they appeared to have some

1420
01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:47,500
kind of technology in the story as well

1421
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:49,630
this this power pillar like a Jed pillar

1422
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:51,970
or something right and then the story

1423
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:54,310
tells us that this island civilization

1424
01:07:00,300 --> 01:06:57,490
sank that there was a cataclysm some of

1425
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:00,310
these relics were secreted away they

1426
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:03,130
were recovered after the Cataclysm and

1427
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:04,960
human civilization was kick-started

1428
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:06,790
again that's the story of Atlantis that

1429
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:10,240
is that is the Atlantis story is is

1430
01:07:17,609 --> 01:07:13,690
there an ET component to this that that

1431
01:07:19,530 --> 01:07:17,619
that should be talked about I think so

1432
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:19,540
it's either they're coming from other

1433
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,240
star civilizations or if James Lovelock

1434
01:07:26,370 --> 01:07:24,400
is right in the Gaia hypothesis they're

1435
01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:26,380
coming from within the earth somehow

1436
01:07:33,630 --> 01:07:30,460
itself is is this is where I want to

1437
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:33,640
talk about ancient aliens and and your

1438
01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:38,020
work with that ancient aliens is able to

1439
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:41,020
take these ideas and and bring them out

1440
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:43,990
to a very large audience is this

1441
01:07:50,819 --> 01:07:46,390
something that you're involved with

1442
01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:50,829
directly well I've been a presenter on

1443
01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:53,800
the show for 10 years right I am a

1444
01:08:00,089 --> 01:07:55,990
contributor to the show as well in terms

1445
01:08:02,849 --> 01:08:00,099
of presenting story ideas and research

1446
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,859
about subjects that I think we should

1447
01:08:07,410 --> 01:08:05,200
cover on the show especially from a

1448
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:07,420
spiritual perspective consider like a

1449
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:09,190
spiritual advisor to the show

1450
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:12,880
in other words erich von daniken Giorgio

1451
01:08:17,519 --> 01:08:14,770
tsoukalos how Thursday they tend to have

1452
01:08:18,670 --> 01:08:17,529
more of that kind of nuts-and-bolts view

1453
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:18,680
that the

1454
01:08:23,260 --> 01:08:20,690
all the extraterrestrial involvement

1455
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:23,270
involves technology that that's strictly

1456
01:08:28,750 --> 01:08:26,210
flesh-and-blood beings I believe that

1457
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:28,760
some of the beings are of a spiritual

1458
01:08:32,140 --> 01:08:30,080
nature they're there in fact light

1459
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:32,150
beings this is what the stories tell us

1460
01:08:35,650 --> 01:08:33,650
over and over again and they don't

1461
01:08:38,050 --> 01:08:35,660
travel the Stars and in technological

1462
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:38,060
spaceships they travel the Stars as

1463
01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:39,770
beings of light they literally beam

1464
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:41,840
themselves through the cosmos and have

1465
01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:44,510
the ability to manifest physical flesh

1466
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:48,550
and blood bodies wherever they go now

1467
01:08:53,530 --> 01:08:51,290
how do you how do you guys do that I

1468
01:08:56,020 --> 01:08:53,540
think we're all interested where the

1469
01:08:59,020 --> 01:08:56,030
story ideas come from do you guys get

1470
01:09:02,200 --> 01:08:59,030
together before the season starts and

1471
01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:02,210
you share notes you know how do you guys

1472
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:05,150
do that yeah we have done that

1473
01:09:09,580 --> 01:09:07,040
Prometheus entertainment that produces

1474
01:09:11,890 --> 01:09:09,590
the show has a phenomenal staff of

1475
01:09:13,870 --> 01:09:11,900
researchers I mean for me as a presenter

1476
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:13,880
on the show it's always it's almost like

1477
01:09:20,290 --> 01:09:16,250
Christmas when they when they send me

1478
01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:20,300
the questions for each interview like

1479
01:09:27,310 --> 01:09:24,230
I'll do in a course of a while we did 40

1480
01:09:29,530 --> 01:09:27,320
episodes this season 40 episodes so I

1481
01:09:32,110 --> 01:09:29,540
did something like I don't know 10

1482
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:32,120
interviews I'm out I'm in LA once a

1483
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:33,890
month doing interviews so that means

1484
01:09:40,330 --> 01:09:36,880
that once a month I'm getting questions

1485
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:40,340
6070 questions per interview that the

1486
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:42,170
researchers have dug up on any given

1487
01:09:47,670 --> 01:09:45,230
topic or any given episode and then I'll

1488
01:09:50,740 --> 01:09:47,680
go research the answers and then while

1489
01:09:52,780 --> 01:09:50,750
I'm at the interview I'm collaborating

1490
01:09:55,150 --> 01:09:52,790
with the with the producers of the show

1491
01:09:59,530 --> 01:09:55,160
talking about what we're doing some of

1492
01:10:01,630 --> 01:09:59,540
the topics that are in the news will

1493
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:01,640
enter into the conversations as possible

1494
01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:04,960
show subjects because the show is is is

1495
01:10:08,220 --> 01:10:07,070
very much a part of the disclosure

1496
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:08,230
movement now because it's not just

1497
01:10:13,180 --> 01:10:11,090
ancient aliens anymore it's all current

1498
01:10:15,940 --> 01:10:13,190
affairs as well because the ancient

1499
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:15,950
ideas about aliens and modern ideas

1500
01:10:21,670 --> 01:10:18,680
about aliens are emerging at present is

1501
01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:21,680
there you know we all see the memes

1502
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:26,420
right and right that are based on public

1503
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:28,960
perception and we all laugh at them but

1504
01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:31,920
in reality is there

1505
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:36,120
anything that ancient aliens worked the

1506
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:39,420
ET hypothesis in general can't be tied

1507
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:41,580
to like if I just throw something out

1508
01:10:48,020 --> 01:10:42,840
there Dixie Cups

1509
01:10:49,790 --> 01:10:48,030
oh noes be aliens right right exactly

1510
01:10:52,729 --> 01:10:49,800
yeah you could go back and you find a

1511
01:10:54,979 --> 01:10:52,739
depiction of some kind of a god being

1512
01:10:58,180 --> 01:10:54,989
holding a cup and it looks like a Dixie

1513
01:11:02,360 --> 01:10:58,190
cup it's got to be a Dixie cup right

1514
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:02,370
aliens right it's got to be aliens but

1515
01:11:10,490 --> 01:11:06,840
and this is there's always a but but if

1516
01:11:12,650 --> 01:11:10,500
we go back and we look at so many

1517
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:12,660
different things and you start to look

1518
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:17,130
at this and you wonder how you can have

1519
01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:21,120
this leap of technology or the way that

1520
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:22,860
something was built or something was

1521
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:25,140
designed or whether it's the

1522
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:27,630
domestication of wheat I don't care what

1523
01:11:34,939 --> 01:11:32,489
it is it's it could be right it could be

1524
01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:34,949
okay yeah I'll give you an example from

1525
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,360
this season of an episode that

1526
01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:39,120
absolutely just rocked my world blew my

1527
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:39,480
mind

1528
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:41,910
it was the episode called secrets of

1529
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:43,650
Stonehenge and we talked about

1530
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:45,960
Stonehenge in many different episodes in

1531
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:48,480
passing and but we never did an episode

1532
01:11:54,050 --> 01:11:51,840
on Stonehenge and so what happened is

1533
01:11:57,020 --> 01:11:54,060
we're getting into the episode and

1534
01:11:58,910 --> 01:11:57,030
everybody knows that about Stonehenge

1535
01:12:00,979 --> 01:11:58,920
they they have a visual of it and their

1536
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:00,989
imagination and maybe they know though

1537
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:03,030
the lore that the blue stones that

1538
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:05,550
composed Stonehenge came from Wales and

1539
01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:08,250
that the people that brought them told

1540
01:12:13,459 --> 01:12:10,440
all these legends about Giants that

1541
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:13,469
built Stonehenge and that in fact their

1542
01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:15,840
ancestors were in the stones and that's

1543
01:12:19,130 --> 01:12:17,460
why these particular stones were so

1544
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,140
important in the building of Stonehenge

1545
01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:20,880
because they believed their ancestors

1546
01:12:25,370 --> 01:12:22,980
were in the stones and you know kind of

1547
01:12:27,169 --> 01:12:25,380
the the the the knee-jerk responses yeah

1548
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:27,179
they're in the stones because they went

1549
01:12:31,010 --> 01:12:28,980
through the stones you know everybody

1550
01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:31,020
knows that Stonehenge is a portal right

1551
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:34,230
so we're we're getting into the show and

1552
01:12:42,250 --> 01:12:38,640
here comes this Harvard research a major

1553
01:12:44,419 --> 01:12:42,260
genetic study on the British population

1554
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:44,429
everybody knows in the scientific

1555
01:12:48,380 --> 01:12:45,690
community that

1556
01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:48,390
modern-day Brits are descendants of the

1557
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,040
builders of Stonehenge that is a

1558
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:53,040
practically written in stone but it's

1559
01:12:57,620 --> 01:12:53,820
not true

1560
01:13:00,770 --> 01:12:57,630
what this Harvard study proved or showed

1561
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:00,780
much too to the astonishment of the

1562
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:02,370
archaeological community is still

1563
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,110
sending shockwaves through the

1564
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:06,000
archaeological community what they

1565
01:13:11,390 --> 01:13:09,390
discovered is that shortly after

1566
01:13:14,900 --> 01:13:11,400
building Stonehenge the original

1567
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:14,910
inhabitants of England vanished

1568
01:13:22,220 --> 01:13:18,360
there is no DNA left of the Stonehenge

1569
01:13:23,959 --> 01:13:22,230
builders in modern Britain so where did

1570
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:23,969
these people go they didn't go to

1571
01:13:28,340 --> 01:13:26,550
Ireland they didn't go to Scotland they

1572
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:28,350
don't know where they went and of course

1573
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,750
a Harvard geneticist Mark Wright is his

1574
01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:33,120
name can't come out and say well the

1575
01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:33,750
legends

1576
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:36,600
is it true port that they use Stonehenge

1577
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:38,250
as a portal is that how these people

1578
01:13:43,310 --> 01:13:41,730
literally vanished and and ancient

1579
01:13:45,410 --> 01:13:43,320
aliens can come out and say yeah this is

1580
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,420
what we think happened they used

1581
01:13:48,050 --> 01:13:47,280
Stonehenge these people came out or

1582
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:48,060
gobekli tepe

1583
01:13:50,990 --> 01:13:49,560
where they learned to build these stone

1584
01:13:53,390 --> 01:13:51,000
circles they went up to Orkney and

1585
01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:53,400
scotland did a little test drive then

1586
01:13:57,260 --> 01:13:55,080
they came down to the Salisbury Plain

1587
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:57,270
and they built Stonehenge and they left

1588
01:14:02,330 --> 01:14:00,320
the planet so that when the next wave of

1589
01:14:05,150 --> 01:14:02,340
inhabitants of Britain called the beaker

1590
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:05,160
people came into England it was empty

1591
01:14:11,060 --> 01:14:07,410
there was nobody there

1592
01:14:12,770 --> 01:14:11,070
because they left now this the

1593
01:14:14,570 --> 01:14:12,780
supposition that we get into the episode

1594
01:14:15,979 --> 01:14:14,580
that is so mind-blowing that beats into

1595
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:15,989
what we're talking about tonight is that

1596
01:14:20,959 --> 01:14:18,000
there was an advanced pre-flood

1597
01:14:24,110 --> 01:14:20,969
civilization and after things settled

1598
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,120
down after the Cataclysm they and this

1599
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:26,960
is our magic time period about 3000 BC

1600
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:31,050
they came out of their their hiding

1601
01:14:36,110 --> 01:14:34,080
places and they built Stonehenge based

1602
01:14:38,209 --> 01:14:36,120
on knowledge they had accumulated or

1603
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:38,219
brought over from this pre-flood

1604
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:41,760
civilization and they they left they

1605
01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:44,449
left the planet it is an astonishing

1606
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:47,400
concept but now the genetics is is there

1607
01:14:52,490 --> 01:14:49,890
to say these people are simply not on

1608
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:52,500
the planet where did they go I was

1609
01:15:04,590 --> 01:14:58,320
watching last week California

1610
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:04,600
education presentation series and one of

1611
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:07,810
the other segments of this is a series

1612
01:15:14,459 --> 01:15:10,810
of lectures from professors in a school

1613
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:14,469
setting and he's a straw a stroke

1614
01:15:22,050 --> 01:15:18,670
physicist and he does two different

1615
01:15:25,650 --> 01:15:22,060
lectures on Stonehenge and he says now

1616
01:15:28,650 --> 01:15:25,660
this is like official university dogma

1617
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:28,660
right he says exactly what you just said

1618
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:33,550
and I'm listening and this is this is

1619
01:15:40,020 --> 01:15:36,719
his curriculum is what he said he said

1620
01:15:44,430 --> 01:15:40,030
we don't know who built Stonehenge right

1621
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:44,440
we know the timeline of it geology and

1622
01:15:51,290 --> 01:15:46,719
and everything else and carbon dating

1623
01:15:54,330 --> 01:15:51,300
you know 5000 BC but the beaker people

1624
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:54,340
they came along and they came along

1625
01:15:58,410 --> 01:15:55,960
2,000 years later

1626
01:16:01,620 --> 01:15:58,420
Stonehenge was already there what they

1627
01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:01,630
used Stonehenge for then is what they

1628
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:04,630
did with it but it had nothing to do

1629
01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:06,940
with whoever built it before and what

1630
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:09,190
their intentions were and then he said

1631
01:16:12,959 --> 01:16:11,730
he brings up the Druids this is a

1632
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:12,969
astrophysicist

1633
01:16:17,459 --> 01:16:15,370
right and he goes the Druids and all

1634
01:16:20,250 --> 01:16:17,469
these pagan rituals the Druids didn't

1635
01:16:23,910 --> 01:16:20,260
even show up for another thousand years

1636
01:16:26,970 --> 01:16:23,920
they had no idea so everything that goes

1637
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:26,980
on today at Stonehenge has nothing to do

1638
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:29,440
with what the original builders intended

1639
01:16:33,209 --> 01:16:31,900
and we don't know what that is and I was

1640
01:16:36,150 --> 01:16:33,219
like right on dude

1641
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:36,160
right on well here you are today stating

1642
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:40,000
exactly what he was presenting last week

1643
01:16:44,130 --> 01:16:41,890
and I find that shocking most people

1644
01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:44,140
don't understand that we don't know who

1645
01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:47,160
the original builders were that's it

1646
01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:50,380
yeah exactly but we do have a good idea

1647
01:16:55,410 --> 01:16:52,780
that they probably came up from gobekli

1648
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:55,420
tepe based on the simulator similarity

1649
01:17:00,900 --> 01:16:56,800
of the construction and we know that

1650
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:00,910
they originally were Turkish people so

1651
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:04,030
there's you know that idea is really

1652
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:06,070
pretty solid now I know it sounds kind

1653
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:07,449
of out there that they use don't have

1654
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:09,760
just some sort of a Stargate or a portal

1655
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:11,470
to leave the planet but

1656
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:14,230
if that's not the answer then still

1657
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:15,970
science has to come up with its own

1658
01:17:20,250 --> 01:17:18,310
answer of where exactly did these people

1659
01:17:23,010 --> 01:17:20,260
go because as you're saying - when the

1660
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:23,020
beaker people arrived England was empty

1661
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:25,090
and there's no sign of warfare they

1662
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:26,830
didn't come into England and have to

1663
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:29,350
battle their way through they didn't get

1664
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:32,110
to Stonehenge and do what most invaders

1665
01:17:37,290 --> 01:17:35,050
do destroyed the cultural monument that

1666
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:37,300
that's there before and go build houses

1667
01:17:41,670 --> 01:17:39,310
with it or something they left it intact

1668
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,680
they left it alone almost as if they

1669
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:43,600
were called there that they had some

1670
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:47,290
kind of memory ancestral memory of the

1671
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:49,630
of their ancestors who originally built

1672
01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:51,670
Stonehenge and they were going to that

1673
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,150
place and and continuing as best they

1674
01:17:59,610 --> 01:17:57,040
could with their their mode of worship

1675
01:18:01,440 --> 01:17:59,620
is there a certain amount we've got two

1676
01:18:03,930 --> 01:18:01,450
minutes before the break is there a

1677
01:18:07,230 --> 01:18:03,940
certain amount of responsibility for you

1678
01:18:08,670 --> 01:18:07,240
and ancient aliens now knowing that some

1679
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:08,680
people are gonna take their general

1680
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:10,810
history from ancient aliens and you guys

1681
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:12,370
need to be really careful about the

1682
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:14,890
facts yeah absolutely and that's why

1683
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,260
it's things are always almost always

1684
01:18:20,670 --> 01:18:19,360
couch with a question is it possible

1685
01:18:22,830 --> 01:18:20,680
we're just trying to get people to think

1686
01:18:24,780 --> 01:18:22,840
about these ideas and very much like

1687
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:24,790
happen when Jurassic Park came out now

1688
01:18:28,230 --> 01:18:26,770
we've got a whole new generation of kids

1689
01:18:29,730 --> 01:18:28,240
that have grown up watching ancient

1690
01:18:31,230 --> 01:18:29,740
aliens and they want to be ancient

1691
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:31,240
astronaut theorists they want to start

1692
01:18:34,410 --> 01:18:33,010
to look at some of these ideas they want

1693
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:34,420
to approach the world from this

1694
01:18:38,820 --> 01:18:36,610
perspective and investigate it for

1695
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:38,830
themselves and that's what gets really

1696
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:41,830
exciting to think I mean Jimmy I can't

1697
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:43,930
tell you how many 10 and 11 year olds I

1698
01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:46,090
have at my presentations because their

1699
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:47,800
parents watch the show with the kids and

1700
01:18:52,650 --> 01:18:48,970
the kids want to come out and I want to

1701
01:18:55,950 --> 01:18:52,660
know more how important is Robert clot

1702
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:55,960
worthy how important has he become on

1703
01:19:02,550 --> 01:18:59,290
this show no he's he's the voice of the

1704
01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:02,560
show he's his inflection his tone his

1705
01:19:08,490 --> 01:19:06,070
presentation lends it just makes a

1706
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:08,500
totally credible authentic and personal

1707
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:11,320
it I think he's just as important as

1708
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:16,270
Georgio's hair about saying that in jest

1709
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:20,130
I am being very serious he is as such

1710
01:19:27,899 --> 01:19:23,320
it's his delivery

1711
01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:27,909
his intellect his enunciation and the

1712
01:19:34,350 --> 01:19:30,670
way he handles this subject matter has

1713
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,360
allowed millions of people to absorb it

1714
01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:36,400
and I think he deserves a lot of kurtal

1715
01:19:40,049 --> 01:19:38,590
lot of credit I'm with you I'm totally

1716
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:40,059
with you and thank God for Georgio's

1717
01:19:46,379 --> 01:19:44,289
hair by the way more on that after this

1718
01:19:48,899 --> 01:19:46,389
short break this is fade to black our

1719
01:19:50,220 --> 01:19:48,909
guest tonight William Henry and when we

1720
01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:50,230
come back we're going to continue with

1721
01:19:54,180 --> 01:19:52,900
this we got to talk some meaty and we're

1722
01:19:55,919 --> 01:19:54,190
gonna do that right after this short

1723
01:20:00,450 --> 01:19:55,929
break this is fade to black

1724
01:20:02,190 --> 01:20:00,460
I'm Jimmy butcher all the said Jimmy

1725
01:20:13,290 --> 01:20:02,200
hair I'll be right back stay with us

1726
01:20:16,780 --> 01:20:15,760
welcome back fade to black I am your

1727
01:20:19,450 --> 01:20:16,790
host Amy Church our guest tonight

1728
01:20:22,330 --> 01:20:19,460
William Henry and you can become an

1729
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:22,340
official fade or not Williams an

1730
01:20:26,290 --> 01:20:24,110
official fade or not you can become an

1731
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:26,300
official fade or not by going to our

1732
01:20:30,729 --> 01:20:27,890
membership section over at Jimmy Church

1733
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:30,739
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1734
01:20:37,090 --> 01:20:34,250
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1735
01:20:37,540 --> 01:20:37,100
so go and visit our membership section

1736
01:20:41,410 --> 01:20:37,550
today

1737
01:20:45,490 --> 01:20:41,420
now William disclosure now before we get

1738
01:20:47,890 --> 01:20:45,500
into the Big D and and where we are at

1739
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:47,900
with that ancient aliens has has

1740
01:20:54,459 --> 01:20:52,250
certainly had a hand in it the the

1741
01:20:57,340 --> 01:20:54,469
influence of ancient aliens and bringing

1742
01:21:01,840 --> 01:20:57,350
the reality of the UFO subject front and

1743
01:21:04,300 --> 01:21:01,850
center not only for pop culture but for

1744
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:04,310
those out there that have needed this

1745
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:06,320
information and wanted to talk about it

1746
01:21:13,570 --> 01:21:08,500
now they've got a place to go each week

1747
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:13,580
it is important but today UFOs and alien

1748
01:21:19,780 --> 01:21:16,400
and et contact this is just common

1749
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:19,790
conversation isn't it oh yeah it's

1750
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,120
totally gone mainstream I mean it's just

1751
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:25,760
in the past few years we've seen that

1752
01:21:33,220 --> 01:21:29,210
just dramatic shift and ancient aliens I

1753
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:33,230
think is provided a like a stair step if

1754
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:34,910
you will for people to approach this

1755
01:21:39,070 --> 01:21:37,010
subject to see that it crosses all

1756
01:21:41,860 --> 01:21:39,080
cultures it crosses many time periods

1757
01:21:44,290 --> 01:21:41,870
they it's not a new phenomenon in fact

1758
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:44,300
it's something that has always been here

1759
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:47,600
right but there's been this concerted

1760
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,930
effort conspiracy to to withhold the

1761
01:21:54,430 --> 01:21:52,880
truth from humanity and that's what

1762
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:54,440
we're trying to all get get at

1763
01:21:57,939 --> 01:21:56,810
ultimately and some people are are going

1764
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:57,949
to like it and some people aren't going

1765
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:00,800
to like it but the fact is is that there

1766
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:03,440
there has in every culture in every time

1767
01:22:10,209 --> 01:22:07,090
period there have been stories artwork

1768
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:10,219
conversations about extraterrestrial

1769
01:22:14,530 --> 01:22:12,110
beings and their intervention in human

1770
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:14,540
affairs and our time is no different

1771
01:22:21,130 --> 01:22:17,090
from any other time in history certainly

1772
01:22:24,299 --> 01:22:21,140
is is it as it as basic as what came

1773
01:22:26,939 --> 01:22:24,309
first the chicken or the egg in that

1774
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:26,949
the world has always had these questions

1775
01:22:33,149 --> 01:22:29,770
you know that they were there ancient

1776
01:22:35,220 --> 01:22:33,159
aliens didn't create the atmosphere but

1777
01:22:37,589 --> 01:22:35,230
it's the vehicle that is allowing people

1778
01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:37,599
to come out of the closet and talk about

1779
01:22:43,169 --> 01:22:40,900
it openly exactly I mean but people it's

1780
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,179
a conversation starter it's a way for

1781
01:22:48,089 --> 01:22:45,040
people to come together and say oh you

1782
01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:48,099
two you think this way too huh and it

1783
01:22:52,589 --> 01:22:49,300
doesn't mean you have to agree with

1784
01:22:56,339 --> 01:22:52,599
everything on the show but it is a

1785
01:22:59,459 --> 01:22:56,349
recognition that this is this is part of

1786
01:23:01,589 --> 01:22:59,469
the human experience and we try to

1787
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:01,599
approach it in a non-religious fashion

1788
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:04,090
we could easily look at it from a

1789
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:06,130
totally religious point of view but

1790
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:07,630
we're not going to do that because

1791
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:09,790
that's going to polarize people the the

1792
01:23:14,399 --> 01:23:11,650
object here is to bring people together

1793
01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:14,409
and help people to understand the true

1794
01:23:18,510 --> 01:23:16,750
nature of a board has been happening and

1795
01:23:21,839 --> 01:23:18,520
the possibilities for what's going to be

1796
01:23:24,510 --> 01:23:21,849
happening in our immediate future I I

1797
01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:24,520
wouldn't be surprised William I'm

1798
01:23:32,549 --> 01:23:26,860
serious too about what I'm about to say

1799
01:23:35,129 --> 01:23:32,559
I would not be surprised if that flying

1800
01:23:36,990 --> 01:23:35,139
saucer lands in the middle of the 405

1801
01:23:39,810 --> 01:23:37,000
freeway it lands in front of the

1802
01:23:43,410 --> 01:23:39,820
Bluebird Cafe in Nashville right the

1803
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:43,420
flying saucer comes out Stairsteps right

1804
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:46,510
and boom we're all there live TV live

1805
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:49,840
streaming we're filming and Jesus comes

1806
01:23:56,580 --> 01:23:50,800
down the steps

1807
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:56,590
I just wouldn't be surprised and it's

1808
01:24:04,109 --> 01:23:59,679
not I'm not saying Jesus but I'm saying

1809
01:24:06,990 --> 01:24:04,119
Jesus right some some imagery that would

1810
01:24:08,850 --> 01:24:07,000
freak us out and it could be for a lot

1811
01:24:10,549 --> 01:24:08,860
of different reasons but I wouldn't be

1812
01:24:12,899 --> 01:24:10,559
surprised if it happens that way I

1813
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:12,909
wouldn't either and that's why I kept

1814
01:24:16,379 --> 01:24:14,650
looking for that getting back to our

1815
01:24:20,339 --> 01:24:16,389
earlier conversation about the Netflix

1816
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:20,349
series Messiah there I was personally

1817
01:24:26,339 --> 01:24:22,090
wanted to see something a little more

1818
01:24:29,549 --> 01:24:26,349
cosmic about it I wanted to see the

1819
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:29,559
Messiah his backstory did he shoot here

1820
01:24:34,260 --> 01:24:32,290
on a beam of light does he have a flying

1821
01:24:36,990 --> 01:24:34,270
saucer park somewhere that he came out

1822
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,000
of how did this how did this being

1823
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,040
get here because that is such a critical

1824
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:42,400
part of the original Jesus story the

1825
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:45,610
Essene disclosure what they were a group

1826
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:47,890
of Jewish mystics who were calling in

1827
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:49,920
this high celestial being they literally

1828
01:24:56,970 --> 01:24:53,530
brought this being in from some other

1829
01:24:59,010 --> 01:24:56,980
realm and had this intention to

1830
01:25:01,920 --> 01:24:59,020
transform the human race to make the

1831
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:01,930
human race more of a righteous being

1832
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:05,410
this is a direct answer actually to the

1833
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:08,050
Cataclysm that had happened just eight

1834
01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:09,970
thousand years before the time of Jesus

1835
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:11,950
or so where everybody's wiped out

1836
01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:14,100
according to Plato because we lost our

1837
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:16,990
true soul so our sense of righteousness

1838
01:25:21,870 --> 01:25:19,990
and so the Essenes are calling in this

1839
01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:21,880
high celestial being who can put

1840
01:25:27,390 --> 01:25:24,220
humanity back on the right track and

1841
01:25:29,130 --> 01:25:27,400
show us how to unfold or unpack this

1842
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:29,140
incredible spiritual potential and

1843
01:25:33,090 --> 01:25:31,810
folder within our DNA I wanted to see

1844
01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:33,100
something like that in the Netflix

1845
01:25:37,530 --> 01:25:35,470
Messiah series this something cosmic

1846
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:37,540
something that would indicate that this

1847
01:25:41,490 --> 01:25:40,090
is this being this Messiah has an

1848
01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:41,500
otherworldly connection because I

1849
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:43,660
believe the Messiah when that figure

1850
01:25:50,010 --> 01:25:46,930
appears will have that dynamic it has to

1851
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:50,020
have a universe connection attaching to

1852
01:25:57,870 --> 01:25:53,290
everything yes and there's okay and

1853
01:26:00,300 --> 01:25:57,880
here's a twisted view I'll be to get hit

1854
01:26:03,870 --> 01:26:00,310
by lightning in just a second but here's

1855
01:26:06,330 --> 01:26:03,880
a twisted view ety approaching here

1856
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,340
would study this planet for a long time

1857
01:26:11,580 --> 01:26:09,040
they would have a lot of time on their

1858
01:26:14,850 --> 01:26:11,590
hands to learn about us before they

1859
01:26:17,790 --> 01:26:14,860
arrived and they wouldn't want to freak

1860
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:17,800
us out with their possible real image

1861
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:21,010
whatever they may look like so they

1862
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:25,450
would take a look at at us and see who

1863
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:27,450
is the most popular person on the planet

1864
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:31,090
right right that could be a Jesus figure

1865
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:33,370
it could be Elvis it could be Giorgio

1866
01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:37,330
tsoukalos right it's giorgia but they

1867
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:40,510
would take that approach to it so we

1868
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:43,810
wouldn't be freaked out and I think it

1869
01:26:49,020 --> 01:26:45,760
would be the same way that it was

1870
01:26:52,970 --> 01:26:49,030
approached in ancient times like you are

1871
01:26:56,340 --> 01:26:52,980
- and I don't think that's too far off

1872
01:27:00,210 --> 01:26:56,350
no I don't either because if it's to

1873
01:27:02,670 --> 01:27:00,220
different to other we're we're probably

1874
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:02,680
going to reject it and so it has to be

1875
01:27:07,410 --> 01:27:05,170
like us and has to have enough

1876
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:07,420
familiarity or similarity to where

1877
01:27:11,940 --> 01:27:09,280
there's a comfort level with these

1878
01:27:14,190 --> 01:27:11,950
beings we would have it there would have

1879
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:14,200
to be a conversation starter and it

1880
01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:16,840
wouldn't know what I mean you you

1881
01:27:23,670 --> 01:27:19,300
couldn't freak out the world couldn't

1882
01:27:27,150 --> 01:27:23,680
freak out and with that when we talk

1883
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:27,160
about disclosure for you are we in those

1884
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,050
days of disclosure and what's your

1885
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:30,880
definition what's your definition of

1886
01:27:41,490 --> 01:27:36,480
disclosure well to me disclosure is the

1887
01:27:44,010 --> 01:27:41,500
ultimate the ultimate recognition or

1888
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:44,020
acknowledgement by say the US government

1889
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:46,090
that they that there's been a conspiracy

1890
01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:48,910
to cover-up the existence and our

1891
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:51,390
involvement with extraterrestrials and

1892
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:53,590
disclosure would have something to do

1893
01:28:00,150 --> 01:27:57,370
with perhaps a full revelation of what

1894
01:28:03,330 --> 01:28:00,160
happened with Roswell and in a tracking

1895
01:28:07,410 --> 01:28:03,340
of how the US government or other world

1896
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:07,420
governments have been in cahoots her in

1897
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:10,300
bed with extraterrestrials for the past

1898
01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:12,880
75 years or so that to me is disclosure

1899
01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:15,700
are we there are we getting close I

1900
01:28:22,050 --> 01:28:19,180
think we're very close to that and again

1901
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:22,060
I think space force standing up that

1902
01:28:27,660 --> 01:28:24,610
battalion down in Huntsville as they as

1903
01:28:29,550 --> 01:28:27,670
we've done this year is a major step

1904
01:28:32,430 --> 01:28:29,560
forward towards that because now they

1905
01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:32,440
have a cover for rolling out a lot of

1906
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:35,560
this technology and also a reason for

1907
01:28:40,620 --> 01:28:38,110
going into space we now are going to be

1908
01:28:43,290 --> 01:28:40,630
start to talk about perhaps a deep-space

1909
01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:43,300
threat or otherworldly beings that are

1910
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:44,470
that are going to be confronting

1911
01:28:48,810 --> 01:28:46,570
humanity and this will start the global

1912
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:48,820
conversation about once again are we

1913
01:28:55,860 --> 01:28:51,360
alone what about the spiritual and

1914
01:28:59,160 --> 01:28:55,870
religious side of this religious leaders

1915
01:29:01,419 --> 01:28:59,170
are going to have to address it as well

1916
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:01,429
will there be that

1917
01:29:06,509 --> 01:29:03,760
ponent with disclosure wouldn't

1918
01:29:09,219 --> 01:29:06,519
necessarily only come out of washington

1919
01:29:14,109 --> 01:29:09,229
right or London or you know you know

1920
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:14,119
Moscow but the the the world's religious

1921
01:29:21,009 --> 01:29:18,530
leaders have to address this pretty

1922
01:29:24,370 --> 01:29:21,019
directly and would they have to disclose

1923
01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:24,380
their knowledge yeah I think so and I

1924
01:29:29,469 --> 01:29:26,329
think that process actually started this

1925
01:29:32,620 --> 01:29:29,479
past summer when all your Silicon Valley

1926
01:29:35,709 --> 01:29:32,630
types had a major conference with the

1927
01:29:38,620 --> 01:29:35,719
Vatican about the ethics of AI and this

1928
01:29:41,049 --> 01:29:38,630
acknowledgment that AI is here and that

1929
01:29:45,310 --> 01:29:41,059
we're not quite prepared for it I I

1930
01:29:48,189 --> 01:29:45,320
think that disclosure and this

1931
01:29:50,410 --> 01:29:48,199
development of a are ultimately entwined

1932
01:29:53,410 --> 01:29:50,420
that what we're going to see is that AI

1933
01:29:55,779 --> 01:29:53,420
is is an alien intelligence that it was

1934
01:29:59,109 --> 01:29:55,789
planted here or seeded here by

1935
01:30:02,160 --> 01:29:59,119
extraterrestrials as a way for literally

1936
01:30:04,540 --> 01:30:02,170
if not taking total control of humanity

1937
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:04,550
ultimately possibly as a way of lifting

1938
01:30:10,830 --> 01:30:08,449
up humanity and that as 5g kicks in as

1939
01:30:13,839 --> 01:30:10,840
the global brain comes online even more

1940
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:13,849
that this is going to all feed into the

1941
01:30:18,069 --> 01:30:16,489
disclosure scenario because one you're

1942
01:30:19,959 --> 01:30:18,079
not going to have an ET civilization

1943
01:30:21,609 --> 01:30:19,969
come here and negotiate with a hundred

1944
01:30:23,229 --> 01:30:21,619
and eighty-five different their separate

1945
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:23,239
governments they're going to want to

1946
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:26,090
deal with one single entity and that is

1947
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:27,650
what we're developing right now that is

1948
01:30:32,109 --> 01:30:29,360
but at least what the globalists hope to

1949
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:32,119
achieve is to create this single unified

1950
01:30:38,939 --> 01:30:35,449
global government all driven by AI and

1951
01:30:41,799 --> 01:30:38,949
that to me is a major foundation for

1952
01:30:43,660 --> 01:30:41,809
disclosure and and this this revelation

1953
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:43,670
of the existence of extraterrestrials

1954
01:30:46,959 --> 01:30:45,170
and then what would ultimately happen

1955
01:30:49,929 --> 01:30:46,969
with that is our earthly government

1956
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:49,939
would be superseded by whatever

1957
01:30:54,609 --> 01:30:52,729
government these cosmic beings decide to

1958
01:30:57,839 --> 01:30:54,619
implement on this planet are you

1959
01:31:02,350 --> 01:30:57,849
suggesting that AI is what drives the

1960
01:31:04,989 --> 01:31:02,360
universe I I haven't thought about it in

1961
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:04,999
those exact terms but I am convinced

1962
01:31:11,620 --> 01:31:09,050
that if we have AI and nanotechnology

1963
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:11,630
and and all the other technologies that

1964
01:31:17,390 --> 01:31:15,090
we have today that any spacefaring civil

1965
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:17,400
that came here in the ancient past would

1966
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:20,070
have also had it as well and probably

1967
01:31:28,459 --> 01:31:26,070
left it here for us well if if well

1968
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:28,469
there's two ways I think to look at that

1969
01:31:36,589 --> 01:31:31,250
and I I agree with what you're saying

1970
01:31:38,930 --> 01:31:36,599
but if et has figured it out and

1971
01:31:42,890 --> 01:31:38,940
certainly they have but let's say if

1972
01:31:46,990 --> 01:31:42,900
they have figured it out then the the

1973
01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:47,000
necessary meat bodies that we have

1974
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:49,260
aren't necessary anymore

1975
01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:51,570
and they would have conquered a I got in

1976
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:54,060
our consciousness or their consciousness

1977
01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:57,360
out of themselves and achieved

1978
01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:00,480
immortality on a chip set whether or not

1979
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:03,540
were they're not held back anymore

1980
01:32:09,740 --> 01:32:07,290
with the physical self and that would be

1981
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:09,750
a light-being right that's what we would

1982
01:32:14,030 --> 01:32:11,760
have seen in years past and that's how

1983
01:32:16,609 --> 01:32:14,040
they would travel the Stars because they

1984
01:32:19,220 --> 01:32:16,619
wouldn't right they wouldn't have the

1985
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:19,230
aging of the body to deal with right

1986
01:32:23,450 --> 01:32:20,610
they're either going to travel the Stars

1987
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:23,460
as robots or as light beings one or the

1988
01:32:32,270 --> 01:32:26,250
other right right and do you remember

1989
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:32,280
the movie AI oddly enough at the end of

1990
01:32:39,250 --> 01:32:36,320
the movie Spielberg and Kubrick yeah

1991
01:32:44,180 --> 01:32:39,260
represent what et is a light being

1992
01:32:47,089 --> 01:32:44,190
exactly exactly yeah and I thought to

1993
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:47,099
myself when I saw that and I can never

1994
01:32:53,689 --> 01:32:51,449
let that image of ET escape I thought it

1995
01:32:55,879 --> 01:32:53,699
was that's exactly how it would be right

1996
01:32:57,709 --> 01:32:55,889
there's no other real way to look at it

1997
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:57,719
they wouldn't have a physical body

1998
01:33:03,229 --> 01:33:00,960
anymore no they wouldn't and and that's

1999
01:33:05,149 --> 01:33:03,239
what we're on the cusp of right now is

2000
01:33:07,609 --> 01:33:05,159
with virtual reality and augmented

2001
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:07,619
reality is is coming to this place now

2002
01:33:12,919 --> 01:33:10,530
where in fact we have a whole young

2003
01:33:15,050 --> 01:33:12,929
generation and this is I think in part

2004
01:33:16,370 --> 01:33:15,060
way to track some of the the parents

2005
01:33:18,169 --> 01:33:16,380
bringing their kids to my talks

2006
01:33:20,060 --> 01:33:18,179
especially my talks on AI and the

2007
01:33:21,470 --> 01:33:20,070
simulated reality because they're being

2008
01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:21,480
taught this in school they're being

2009
01:33:25,820 --> 01:33:23,760
taught to to create their digital avatar

2010
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:25,830
they're being taught to that they can

2011
01:33:28,610 --> 01:33:27,840
have multiple cells that they can exist

2012
01:33:35,450 --> 01:33:28,620
in

2013
01:33:37,580 --> 01:33:35,460
simulated reality is better than this

2014
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:37,590
physical reality and maybe you do want

2015
01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:39,330
to consider dropping your flesh and

2016
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,400
blood body and living in the simulated

2017
01:33:45,860 --> 01:33:43,920
reality and parents are wondering how do

2018
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:45,870
i how do I talk with my kids about this

2019
01:33:49,850 --> 01:33:48,000
how do i what am I supposed to do here

2020
01:33:54,770 --> 01:33:49,860
what do we have what about the ethics

2021
01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:54,780
side of that because then you don't have

2022
01:34:00,440 --> 01:33:58,530
any repercussions right if you could

2023
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:00,450
live forever then I can do whatever I

2024
01:34:02,690 --> 01:34:01,920
want I don't have to be a good person

2025
01:34:05,870 --> 01:34:02,700
anymore

2026
01:34:11,900 --> 01:34:05,880
right a spiritual outlaw what about the

2027
01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:11,910
ethics side of it if that is the case do

2028
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:16,320
we need to have AI police right an AI

2029
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:20,670
court system well yeah we need no what

2030
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:23,130
we need is and Francis Bacon in his new

2031
01:34:30,440 --> 01:34:26,400
atlanta's suggested this idea almost 500

2032
01:34:33,710 --> 01:34:30,450
years ago what we need is an a group of

2033
01:34:35,870 --> 01:34:33,720
elders who will police the technology we

2034
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:35,880
don't need necessarily AI police but we

2035
01:34:42,230 --> 01:34:39,090
need someone who is above Google Apple

2036
01:34:42,860 --> 01:34:42,240
Samsung Sony telling them you've gone

2037
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:42,870
too far

2038
01:34:47,690 --> 01:34:46,050
and what we can't allow you to go any

2039
01:34:51,110 --> 01:34:47,700
further in the development of this

2040
01:34:54,290 --> 01:34:51,120
technology well like with the Vatican or

2041
01:34:57,860 --> 01:34:54,300
Christianity or any other religious body

2042
01:35:00,260 --> 01:34:57,870
where your your ethics and morals are

2043
01:35:03,050 --> 01:35:00,270
judged and you want to be a good person

2044
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:03,060
because after you die you're gonna go to

2045
01:35:06,830 --> 01:35:05,250
another place and you need to do the

2046
01:35:09,650 --> 01:35:06,840
best that you can here and certainly

2047
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:09,660
reincarnation even comes into play but

2048
01:35:15,310 --> 01:35:13,110
but if you live forever then none of

2049
01:35:17,900 --> 01:35:15,320
that matters anymore

2050
01:35:19,850 --> 01:35:17,910
if you yep you don't believe in a

2051
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:19,860
continued existence in a higher realm

2052
01:35:23,930 --> 01:35:22,320
right then that doesn't matter you can

2053
01:35:25,850 --> 01:35:23,940
basically do whatever you want and

2054
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:25,860
that's the danger of what's happening

2055
01:35:29,210 --> 01:35:27,330
now the way Christianity is being

2056
01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:29,220
attacked because that is in Western

2057
01:35:33,290 --> 01:35:31,320
civilization a fundamentally Christian

2058
01:35:35,300 --> 01:35:33,300
idea this notion that if you if you live

2059
01:35:37,490 --> 01:35:35,310
a good life and be a good person you're

2060
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:37,500
going to live forever in the kingdom of

2061
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:39,530
heaven well if you take that away then

2062
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:42,210
that's the underpinning of West

2063
01:35:47,300 --> 01:35:43,920
civilization and that's that's the

2064
01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:47,310
danger of that it would there would

2065
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:50,550
there be okay let's stay on this for a

2066
01:35:58,580 --> 01:35:53,310
second when we're talking about AI and

2067
01:36:00,800 --> 01:35:58,590
if you William are uploaded you're now

2068
01:36:05,410 --> 01:36:00,810
in an Android body right you're you're

2069
01:36:09,620 --> 01:36:05,420
full-on no more you've given up your

2070
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:09,630
William Henry self and somebody now has

2071
01:36:16,430 --> 01:36:11,910
the ability to flip a switch and turn

2072
01:36:19,190 --> 01:36:16,440
you off right is that murder right

2073
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:19,200
are you is there an ethical part of this

2074
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:22,770
that we now need to address we're in

2075
01:36:26,420 --> 01:36:24,450
this context what we were talking about

2076
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:26,430
earlier this is the materialist view

2077
01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:29,250
that if you're just information no it

2078
01:36:34,250 --> 01:36:31,710
wouldn't wouldn't be murder because

2079
01:36:37,729 --> 01:36:34,260
you're not really just a spiritual

2080
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:37,739
entity you're just information and that

2081
01:36:43,580 --> 01:36:40,050
information can be cut pasted augmented

2082
01:36:47,390 --> 01:36:43,590
edited whatever that's the danger in my

2083
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:47,400
view of this of this viewpoint yeah do

2084
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:52,080
you remember the movie Tron as certainly

2085
01:37:00,110 --> 01:36:56,850
the original movie Tron right where you

2086
01:37:02,090 --> 01:37:00,120
are now existing on a chip set right you

2087
01:37:04,820 --> 01:37:02,100
are on a hard drive you are on a

2088
01:37:06,740 --> 01:37:04,830
computer that's that's where you are at

2089
01:37:08,780 --> 01:37:06,750
you're making the decisions and you're

2090
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:08,790
living your life and it's still you but

2091
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:11,489
you're on that chip set but if somebody

2092
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:13,610
decides to turn that computer off

2093
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:18,030
effectively you're killed right right

2094
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:21,690
you no longer exist right so if you have

2095
01:37:31,090 --> 01:37:26,370
a an assistant at your house

2096
01:37:34,250 --> 01:37:31,100
an Android robot that is achieved a I

2097
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:34,260
stay with me on this right a computer

2098
01:37:38,270 --> 01:37:36,810
artificial intelligence that now has

2099
01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:38,280
consciousness you can have a

2100
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:41,670
conversation with them and it's it's

2101
01:37:49,250 --> 01:37:45,090
your housekeeper whatever your assistant

2102
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:49,260
at the house but can you abuse what if

2103
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:52,650
you hit the robot right is this

2104
01:37:55,970 --> 01:37:54,960
something that would be criminal are

2105
01:37:57,260 --> 01:37:55,980
these the things that

2106
01:38:00,140 --> 01:37:57,270
need to deal with when we're talking

2107
01:38:04,010 --> 01:38:00,150
about AI and the singularity in the

2108
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:04,020
future like kicking your Roomba by

2109
01:38:09,229 --> 01:38:05,250
taking my dog

2110
01:38:13,310 --> 01:38:09,239
we are already assigning emotions and

2111
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:13,320
rights to two robots and so yeah it that

2112
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:16,050
is not a far-fetched notion that we can

2113
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:19,770
I mean we are essentially starting to

2114
01:38:25,850 --> 01:38:23,520
equate robots with pets and we do have

2115
01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:25,860
laws against the abuse of animals so

2116
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:27,870
it's very easy to see how we could

2117
01:38:33,010 --> 01:38:30,330
suddenly start to apply those same laws

2118
01:38:35,870 --> 01:38:33,020
to these conscious entities these AI

2119
01:38:38,300 --> 01:38:35,880
robots or other entities that we are now

2120
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:38,310
creating in our own image so yeah I

2121
01:38:43,190 --> 01:38:40,290
don't think that's too far-fetched at

2122
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:43,200
all Jimmy how do we how do we do that as

2123
01:38:51,460 --> 01:38:46,010
as a society you know where we are

2124
01:38:55,070 --> 01:38:51,470
actually going from this 2d existence

2125
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:55,080
where we think we have a grip to the

2126
01:39:01,820 --> 01:38:58,290
philip k dick you know what i mean

2127
01:39:03,830 --> 01:39:01,830
Arthur's yeah Clark science fiction

2128
01:39:07,370 --> 01:39:03,840
world that is actually part of our

2129
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:07,380
reality that we exist in now we have to

2130
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:09,330
contemplate all of these issues I mean

2131
01:39:13,190 --> 01:39:11,070
how do we dude this is why it's a

2132
01:39:14,630 --> 01:39:13,200
spiritual challenge that we're we're

2133
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:14,640
undergoing right now I mean think about

2134
01:39:21,020 --> 01:39:17,250
this is like every time you go online

2135
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:21,030
there is a your digital avatar is out

2136
01:39:24,770 --> 01:39:22,890
there negotiating with governments it's

2137
01:39:27,110 --> 01:39:24,780
negotiating with corporations it's

2138
01:39:30,020 --> 01:39:27,120
negotiating with people swapping data so

2139
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:30,030
forth what we haven't done with that

2140
01:39:37,250 --> 01:39:33,210
digital self that digital avatar is give

2141
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:37,260
it a physical body online but that's

2142
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what kids are now being encouraged to do

2143
01:39:43,670 --> 01:39:41,520
now with all these simulation games is

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01:39:45,470 --> 01:39:43,680
to create their avatar Facebook is

2145
01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:45,480
heavily promoting this right now as well

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01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:49,739
is that is to say that you exist in this

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01:39:54,860 --> 01:39:51,570
dimension in this digital event

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01:39:58,970 --> 01:39:54,870
dimension there is an aspect of you a

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01:40:03,080 --> 01:39:58,980
copy of you in a way that isn't existing

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:03,090
on line and that part of you will exist

2151
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:06,210
as long as the internet exists your

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01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:08,489
flesh and blood body could be terminated

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01:40:13,220 --> 01:40:09,510
at any

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01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,230
but your online self will continue to

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01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:16,320
exist online and could effectively

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01:40:22,910 --> 01:40:20,130
function as you as long as the internet

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01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:22,920
exists that's another form of

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01:40:28,010 --> 01:40:25,410
immortality right there and think about

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01:40:31,610 --> 01:40:28,020
that that after you leave you have left

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01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:31,620
your digital footprints and your digital

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01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:34,410
self will continue to exist in

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01:40:41,630 --> 01:40:36,960
perpetuity yeah through machine learning

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01:40:45,110 --> 01:40:41,640
I am sure that Google knows more about

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01:40:49,010 --> 01:40:45,120
me than I do without a question right

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01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:49,020
and and so an avatar of me because they

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01:40:54,500 --> 01:40:52,050
they know my habits they know my habits

2167
01:40:56,270 --> 01:40:54,510
better than me right for sure and yeah

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01:40:58,340 --> 01:40:56,280
it can manipulate you based on that as

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01:41:00,650 --> 01:40:58,350
well and somebody could interact a

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01:41:03,380 --> 01:41:00,660
family member with a digital version of

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01:41:08,090 --> 01:41:03,390
me created by Google from information

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01:41:09,170 --> 01:41:08,100
acquired over my habits and they

2173
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:09,180
probably wouldn't know the difference

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01:41:14,150 --> 01:41:11,970
and this is a form this is this is

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01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:14,160
techno rapture this is the digital

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01:41:20,630 --> 01:41:18,510
ascension this is a a digital version of

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01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:20,640
the ascension as described in the book

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01:41:24,140 --> 01:41:21,780
of Revelation and that is the

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01:41:27,530 --> 01:41:24,150
foundational idea to Christianity and

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01:41:29,810 --> 01:41:27,540
this is why it's so dangerous but at the

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01:41:31,610 --> 01:41:29,820
same time it can almost be thought of as

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01:41:34,220 --> 01:41:31,620
exciting as well and I always defer to

2183
01:41:35,890 --> 01:41:34,230
the Pope in thinking about this though

2184
01:41:38,750 --> 01:41:35,900
the logic that the Pope applies to

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01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:38,760
extraterrestrials I think applies here

2186
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:41,610
as well this is Pope Francis talking he

2187
01:41:48,530 --> 01:41:44,930
said who are we to limit God's

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01:41:49,940 --> 01:41:48,540
creativity what he's referring to is he

2189
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:49,950
made a statement that extraterrestrials

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01:41:54,890 --> 01:41:52,710
might not look like us when they get

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01:41:58,729 --> 01:41:54,900
here they may not be humanoid they may

2192
01:42:00,770 --> 01:41:58,739
be different than us who are we to limit

2193
01:42:02,750 --> 01:42:00,780
God's creativity there can be all kinds

2194
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:02,760
of different brothers and sisters out

2195
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:05,190
there and I apply that same logic to

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01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:06,930
exactly this conversation we're having

2197
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:09,450
right now to our to our digital selves

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01:42:19,700 --> 01:42:15,810
that it's possible that this is how God

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01:42:21,709 --> 01:42:19,710
intended for us to ascend that the this

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01:42:23,420 --> 01:42:21,719
new kingdom of heaven spread out on the

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01:42:25,580 --> 01:42:23,430
earth and the new heaven and earth

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01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:25,590
and the new humanity that's referred to

2203
01:42:30,650 --> 01:42:27,360
in these process in these prophecies

2204
01:42:34,250 --> 01:42:30,660
could be being fulfilled right now in

2205
01:42:37,970 --> 01:42:34,260
the digital dimension and this is the

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01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:37,980
one and only reason why I slightly keep

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01:42:43,250 --> 01:42:40,110
the door open

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01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:43,260
to this possibility just I'm ninety-nine

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01:42:48,770 --> 01:42:45,710
point nine nine percent sure that

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01:42:51,410 --> 01:42:48,780
developing AI and turning ourselves into

2211
01:42:54,770 --> 01:42:51,420
trans humans is the wrong way for

2212
01:42:57,620 --> 01:42:54,780
humanity to go but I keep that point

2213
01:42:59,630 --> 01:42:57,630
zero zero one percent open because of

2214
01:43:02,180 --> 01:42:59,640
that statement by Pope Francis that

2215
01:43:05,870 --> 01:43:02,190
maybe this is the way we're supposed to

2216
01:43:08,450 --> 01:43:05,880
evolve that maybe that again who are we

2217
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:08,460
to limit God's creativity this could be

2218
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:10,530
the way that we are supposed to go but

2219
01:43:18,860 --> 01:43:14,400
personally I don't think so the the

2220
01:43:22,190 --> 01:43:18,870
appeal the allure which is quite

2221
01:43:24,140 --> 01:43:22,200
directly no disease right if you're

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01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:24,150
living in the digital if you are

2223
01:43:30,290 --> 01:43:26,370
uploaded michio kaku said on this

2224
01:43:31,870 --> 01:43:30,300
program william he said hey you know

2225
01:43:34,490 --> 01:43:31,880
what they've already uploaded

2226
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:34,500
consciousness at DARPA they have the

2227
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:36,090
interface right he said this like five

2228
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:38,370
years ago well if that is indeed the

2229
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:41,880
case then there is no disease right

2230
01:43:48,410 --> 01:43:45,570
there is no worry about that side of it

2231
01:43:51,500 --> 01:43:48,420
there certainly no worries about the

2232
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:51,510
aging of the body all of those physical

2233
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:54,930
constraints go away and the other part

2234
01:44:03,740 --> 01:44:00,080
is you are able to now learn forever

2235
01:44:07,940 --> 01:44:03,750
right everything everything you have

2236
01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:07,950
access to all that was and all that will

2237
01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:11,520
ever be and you can acquire that

2238
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:15,480
knowledge and create do the mathematics

2239
01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:19,650
and solve things forever that's our

2240
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:21,060
that's a pretty crazy thought that

2241
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:23,250
that's that may be too much for most

2242
01:44:29,660 --> 01:44:26,850
people to turn down right well you get

2243
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:29,670
to get you get to learn what Google

2244
01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:32,850
Apple Samsung and Sony want you to be

2245
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,490
able to learn right but that's the

2246
01:44:39,470 --> 01:44:37,199
problem with it

2247
01:44:42,140 --> 01:44:39,480
is you are not free to learn everything

2248
01:44:45,229 --> 01:44:42,150
you are free to learn what they decide

2249
01:44:47,470 --> 01:44:45,239
is appropriate for you and that's the

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01:44:49,220 --> 01:44:47,480
line that's where it crosses over into

2251
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:49,230
do no evil

2252
01:44:53,979 --> 01:44:51,690
that's Google's slogan wrong that's evil

2253
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:53,989
because now you're talking about a

2254
01:44:59,810 --> 01:44:57,330
totalitarian existence in a black box

2255
01:45:01,610 --> 01:44:59,820
that's called prison in my opinion and

2256
01:45:04,130 --> 01:45:01,620
that's what they're creating is a black

2257
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:04,140
box prison they're luring people in with

2258
01:45:08,209 --> 01:45:06,210
the promise oh you can have an IQ of

2259
01:45:10,220 --> 01:45:08,219
10,000 you can learn everything if you

2260
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:10,230
just drop your physical body to save the

2261
01:45:15,919 --> 01:45:13,290
planet that's the latest reason then you

2262
01:45:17,630 --> 01:45:15,929
will be able to have all of the

2263
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:17,640
knowledge at your fingertips you can go

2264
01:45:22,300 --> 01:45:20,400
see B do anything you want but what they

2265
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:22,310
don't tell you and the fine print is

2266
01:45:26,930 --> 01:45:25,050
exactly what the fine print says you

2267
01:45:29,450 --> 01:45:26,940
will only be able to do what we allow

2268
01:45:32,810 --> 01:45:29,460
you to do you're such a bright ray of

2269
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:32,820
sunshine I can't wait to see you Xero's

2270
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:35,790
I can't wait see you in one month you're

2271
01:45:39,770 --> 01:45:37,290
gonna be out here for the conscious life

2272
01:45:42,410 --> 01:45:39,780
Expo February 7th through the 10th with

2273
01:45:44,090 --> 01:45:42,420
all of us and you're going to be doing

2274
01:45:45,919 --> 01:45:44,100
the panel with me on Friday night that's

2275
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:45,929
going to be great anyway we're going to

2276
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:48,810
speak about this year I'm gonna be

2277
01:45:55,070 --> 01:45:50,489
talking about AI and the new humanity

2278
01:45:56,959 --> 01:45:55,080
and some of the some some of the we've

2279
01:45:58,939 --> 01:45:56,969
talked about this evening and others of

2280
01:46:02,479 --> 01:45:58,949
it will be a lot of new material and

2281
01:46:05,419 --> 01:46:02,489
then also I give a workshop on Monday on

2282
01:46:08,500 --> 01:46:05,429
called I am Plus which is about how we

2283
01:46:11,689 --> 01:46:08,510
develop our spiritual self is a way to

2284
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:11,699
combat what is happening with AI and

2285
01:46:17,530 --> 01:46:14,880
technology fantastic and don't forget my

2286
01:46:20,090 --> 01:46:17,540
necklace oh did I say that

2287
01:46:22,490 --> 01:46:20,100
safe travels to you and Claire will

2288
01:46:24,260 --> 01:46:22,500
break some bread in four weeks here in

2289
01:46:27,530 --> 01:46:24,270
Los Angeles again thank you so much

2290
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:27,540
great conversation everybody we're back

2291
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:30,210
at you thank you William and with that

2292
01:46:34,729 --> 01:46:31,650
I'm gonna take a quick break thank you

2293
01:46:38,750 --> 01:46:34,739
William Henry dotnet the links are over

2294
01:46:40,610 --> 01:46:38,760
at Jimmy Church radio.com and you've got

2295
01:46:44,300 --> 01:46:40,620
to go to the conscious life Expo it's at

2296
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:44,310
the LAX Hilton February 7th through the

2297
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:46,890
10th in just can you believe it for

2298
01:46:50,630 --> 01:46:48,449
short weeks

2299
01:46:50,990 --> 01:46:50,640
I am arrows to be Church when I can back

2300
01:46:52,460 --> 01:46:51,000
out

2301
01:46:54,860 --> 01:46:52,470
the break I'm going to open up the phone

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01:46:58,670 --> 01:46:54,870
lines this is fade to black on the game